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If you’re vegetarian, why do you want the uncanny valley version of meat? Be a vegetarian. I have always thought that the target market for Beyond/Incredible/

by efitz 4y ago

If you’re vegetarian, why do you want the uncanny valley version of meat? Be a vegetarian. I have always thought that the target market for Beyond/Incredible/etc was not vegetarians, but rather partners of vegetarians. They don’t really want to give up meat but they want to support their partner and/or avoid conflict.

plaguepilled 4y ago
For some people, meat tastes good, but they want to reduce meat intake or remove it from their diet for health or environmental reasons. The status of 'be a vegetarian' is irrelevant to the material effect.
- Sebguer 4y ago
  These companies only really target the environmental, since they're not actually any healthier than actual meat.
  - plaguepilled 4y ago
    Apologies, I think I used "health" in a misleading way. My intention was not to suggest meat substitutes are strictly better than meat for losing weight, or reducing heart disease, general public health advice (I am not qualified to even make those comments!). The scope I was hoping to address was situations where an individual needs to replace meat for their specific dietary requirements. In this case, meat substitutes may be useful if, say, there is something in meat causing inflammation for the individual. This is largely "what-if" though, and would probably require a doctor's consult to confirm.
kristopolous 4y ago
The play was to be well positioned when the big meat brands (think McDonald's) eventually make the switch which they theorized will have to happen both because of climate change and because they'll have a cheaper, less resource intense substitute. It's really the same play as any technology, the first generation jumps the gun and strikes too early given their ambitions. But someone's gotta be the Yahoo! It's a necessary step in the path.
jmkr 4y ago
If you're vegetarian, go vegan, otherwise you still support the meat industries, as well as the exploitation of living sentient beings. If you're vegan, eat whatever you want as long as it doesn't exploit an animal in any conceivable way. Who cares about this uncanny fake-meats? Only people that exploit animals.
lkbm 4y ago
As a vegetarian, I'm going to eat the vegetarian food I like, and that includes fake meat. I've lived with dozens of other vegetarians, and I've heard the "I don't like fake meat" position a lot, but it's not a clear majority, and far from universal. My grocery store sells five+ brands of fake chicken at this point, in addition to vegetarian burgers, fish, and sausage. There's very obviously a market.
bl0rg 4y ago
Why? Because I love(d) meat. It's the closest thing I can find, while still being vegetarian. Does that make sense to you?

by efitz 4y ago

plaguepilled 4y ago

For some people, meat tastes good, but they want to reduce meat intake or remove it from their diet for health or environmental reasons. The status of 'be a vegetarian' is irrelevant to the material effect.

Sebguer 4y ago
These companies only really target the environmental, since they're not actually any healthier than actual meat.
- plaguepilled 4y ago
  Apologies, I think I used "health" in a misleading way. My intention was not to suggest meat substitutes are strictly better than meat for losing weight, or reducing heart disease, general public health advice (I am not qualified to even make those comments!). The scope I was hoping to address was situations where an individual needs to replace meat for their specific dietary requirements. In this case, meat substitutes may be useful if, say, there is something in meat causing inflammation for the individual. This is largely "what-if" though, and would probably require a doctor's consult to confirm.

kristopolous 4y ago

The play was to be well positioned when the big meat brands (think McDonald's) eventually make the switch which they theorized will have to happen both because of climate change and because they'll have a cheaper, less resource intense substitute. It's really the same play as any technology, the first generation jumps the gun and strikes too early given their ambitions. But someone's gotta be the Yahoo! It's a necessary step in the path.

jmkr 4y ago

If you're vegetarian, go vegan, otherwise you still support the meat industries, as well as the exploitation of living sentient beings. If you're vegan, eat whatever you want as long as it doesn't exploit an animal in any conceivable way. Who cares about this uncanny fake-meats? Only people that exploit animals.

lkbm 4y ago

As a vegetarian, I'm going to eat the vegetarian food I like, and that includes fake meat. I've lived with dozens of other vegetarians, and I've heard the "I don't like fake meat" position a lot, but it's not a clear majority, and far from universal. My grocery store sells five+ brands of fake chicken at this point, in addition to vegetarian burgers, fish, and sausage. There's very obviously a market.

bl0rg 4y ago

Why? Because I love(d) meat. It's the closest thing I can find, while still being vegetarian. Does that make sense to you?