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Just waiting to see job ads for Latent Space Navigator.

by Vanit 4y ago

abledon 4y ago
If my office is a vat of liquid spice, sign me up. (reference to guild space navigators of dune (watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg), but in this case, we'd be the grotesque quasi-immortal 'media' navigators, and instead of navigating through space, we'd be generating prompts to steer the thoughts of the masses and navigate society through the dystopic future where AI art rules every conceivable variation of human creativity thought)
- x-complexity 4y ago
  > the dystopic future where AI art rules every conceivable variation of human creativity thought ...This part admittedly trip me: How is it that a system that mirrors every variation of human creativity dystopic? Human creativity is softly bounded by the environments we interact with & the techniques created/(taught to us) for creating such works, along with the knowledge & philosophies that were also created/(taught to us). Ultimately, human creativity is limited in terms of contextual data. The entire art genre of retrofuturism showcases this intentional lack of data in practice. Scenario: A HASDMLASKD drive doesn't mean anything at first, until a general guiding focus is given to the concept of this drive. Only when it's been given some context do our imaginations fill in the gaps (e.g. space, or storage, or for submarines). If there's a system that encompasses/surpasses the area that human creativity exists in, that doesn't mean the "oh woe to humanity" doomerism that comes in quick reaction to such a system. It just means that there's a system that can be systematically learnt from & help augment current creation capabilities that lead to more works in the future: Such doomerism is only warranted within a nihilistic context of "humanity will never surpass X", when a more appropriate "X will help increase the area that humanity lives within" could be slotted in.
  - visarga 4y ago
    > Such doomerism is only warranted within a nihilistic context of "humanity will never surpass X", when a more appropriate "X will help increase the area that humanity lives within" could be slotted in. I think it's a lack of imagination. It's hard to imagine the jobs of the future. We assume work is a fixed sum game, but given new resources we would take different goals and make different plans. It always depends on what is possible, not what was possible.
  - donkeyd 4y ago
    > Human creativity is softly bounded by the environments we interact with & the techniques created/(taught to us) for creating such works Exactly this. I'm personally awful at drawing. I'm also awful at most design software. I'm really bad at bringing a concept that lives in my head into the world. I've noticed that playing with Stable Diffusion has allowed me to create things I wouldn't have been able to otherwise. It allows me to create art for projects that I otherwise would've made a lame logo for, or used some stock photography. I don't have the money to hire a skilled artist anyway, so this gives me new possibilities.
taocoyote 4y ago
When I first read about Latent Space, it struck me as quite similar to the L-Space as described in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels.

Just waiting to see job ads for Latent Space Navigator.

by Vanit 4y ago

Just waiting to see job ads for Latent Space Navigator.

If my office is a vat of liquid spice, sign me up. (reference to guild space navigators of dune (watch?v=AGqdE1NdMTg), but in this case, we'd be the grotesque quasi-immortal 'media' navigators, and instead of navigating through space, we'd be generating prompts to steer the thoughts of the masses and navigate society through the dystopic future where AI art rules every conceivable variation of human creativity thought)

x-complexity 4y ago
> the dystopic future where AI art rules every conceivable variation of human creativity thought ...This part admittedly trip me: How is it that a system that mirrors every variation of human creativity dystopic? Human creativity is softly bounded by the environments we interact with & the techniques created/(taught to us) for creating such works, along with the knowledge & philosophies that were also created/(taught to us). Ultimately, human creativity is limited in terms of contextual data. The entire art genre of retrofuturism showcases this intentional lack of data in practice. Scenario: A HASDMLASKD drive doesn't mean anything at first, until a general guiding focus is given to the concept of this drive. Only when it's been given some context do our imaginations fill in the gaps (e.g. space, or storage, or for submarines). If there's a system that encompasses/surpasses the area that human creativity exists in, that doesn't mean the "oh woe to humanity" doomerism that comes in quick reaction to such a system. It just means that there's a system that can be systematically learnt from & help augment current creation capabilities that lead to more works in the future: Such doomerism is only warranted within a nihilistic context of "humanity will never surpass X", when a more appropriate "X will help increase the area that humanity lives within" could be slotted in.
- visarga 4y ago
  > Such doomerism is only warranted within a nihilistic context of "humanity will never surpass X", when a more appropriate "X will help increase the area that humanity lives within" could be slotted in. I think it's a lack of imagination. It's hard to imagine the jobs of the future. We assume work is a fixed sum game, but given new resources we would take different goals and make different plans. It always depends on what is possible, not what was possible.
- donkeyd 4y ago
  > Human creativity is softly bounded by the environments we interact with & the techniques created/(taught to us) for creating such works Exactly this. I'm personally awful at drawing. I'm also awful at most design software. I'm really bad at bringing a concept that lives in my head into the world. I've noticed that playing with Stable Diffusion has allowed me to create things I wouldn't have been able to otherwise. It allows me to create art for projects that I otherwise would've made a lame logo for, or used some stock photography. I don't have the money to hire a skilled artist anyway, so this gives me new possibilities.

taocoyote 4y ago

When I first read about Latent Space, it struck me as quite similar to the L-Space as described in Terry Pratchett's Discworld novels.