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How do the outcomes compare to people with ADHD who were unmedicated? It's possible that the medicated outcomes are poor and yet still better than the unmedicat

by pugz 4y ago

How do the outcomes compare to people with ADHD who were unmedicated? It's possible that the medicated outcomes are poor and yet still better than the unmedicated outcomes.

ldjkfkdsjnv 4y ago
I'm just saying I have a number of cousins, friends, etc who have been on them a long time. Very few of them completed college, have a career. A lot of them have anxiety, depression, and general maladjustment. If thats what they got out of the medication then they got nothing, they would have been better off spending their youth sober and healthy.
- andymboyle 4y ago
  I mean, it's a neurodevelopmental disorder that makes it hard for people to accomplish tasks. And what you're describing just seem like all the symptoms people with ADHD would have. This isn't a perfect analogy, but it's kind of like saying a guy isn't a great runner because he tore his ACL and surgeons fixed it but it's still messed up, and saying he should've just never gotten the surgery. You're blaming the medication when people with ADHD are already predisposed to not being able to complete things, have normal careers, and are at high risk for anxiety, depression and other things. You're just seeing what ADHD looks like.
- taeric 4y ago
  You likely have some cousins, friends, etc that have had much harder lives than you appreciate. Especially if you view this as not being sober... Correctly medicated ADHD people should not in any way compared to drugged or drunken people.
- eurasiantiger 4y ago
  Yes, having major difficulties concentrating on school or work tends to cause anxiety, depression and maladjustment. Stimulant medications are not a cure, but they do improve quality of life in ADHD patients compared to baseline.
renonn 4y ago
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  Please stop spreading lies. How would you feel if you struggled with an illness your entire life and someone told you it's not real, you just "like identifying as sick"? You think being so distracted my life falls apart around me(without meds) is meaningless?
- rodw 4y ago
  ADHD brains are observably, physically different than neurotypical brains: - Neurotypical brain: https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/healthy-brain-scan.jpg https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/healt... - ADHD brain: https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/add-adhd-brain-scan.jpg https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/add-a... Articles: - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31014101/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31014101/ - https://neurosciencenews.com/adhd-brain-markers-21931/ https://neurosciencenews.com/adhd-brain-markers-21931/ - https://www.amenclinics.com/conditions/adhd-add/ https://www.amenclinics.com/conditions/adhd-add/ (source for the images above) - etc. This is a well documented result.

by pugz 4y ago

How do the outcomes compare to people with ADHD who were unmedicated? It's possible that the medicated outcomes are poor and yet still better than the unmedicated outcomes.

ldjkfkdsjnv 4y ago

I'm just saying I have a number of cousins, friends, etc who have been on them a long time. Very few of them completed college, have a career. A lot of them have anxiety, depression, and general maladjustment. If thats what they got out of the medication then they got nothing, they would have been better off spending their youth sober and healthy.

andymboyle 4y ago
I mean, it's a neurodevelopmental disorder that makes it hard for people to accomplish tasks. And what you're describing just seem like all the symptoms people with ADHD would have. This isn't a perfect analogy, but it's kind of like saying a guy isn't a great runner because he tore his ACL and surgeons fixed it but it's still messed up, and saying he should've just never gotten the surgery. You're blaming the medication when people with ADHD are already predisposed to not being able to complete things, have normal careers, and are at high risk for anxiety, depression and other things. You're just seeing what ADHD looks like.
taeric 4y ago
You likely have some cousins, friends, etc that have had much harder lives than you appreciate. Especially if you view this as not being sober... Correctly medicated ADHD people should not in any way compared to drugged or drunken people.
eurasiantiger 4y ago
Yes, having major difficulties concentrating on school or work tends to cause anxiety, depression and maladjustment. Stimulant medications are not a cure, but they do improve quality of life in ADHD patients compared to baseline.

renonn 4y ago

mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
Please stop spreading lies. How would you feel if you struggled with an illness your entire life and someone told you it's not real, you just "like identifying as sick"? You think being so distracted my life falls apart around me(without meds) is meaningless?
rodw 4y ago
ADHD brains are observably, physically different than neurotypical brains: - Neurotypical brain: https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/healthy-brain-scan.jpg https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/healt... - ADHD brain: https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/add-adhd-brain-scan.jpg https://www.amenclinics.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/add-a... Articles: - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31014101/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31014101/ - https://neurosciencenews.com/adhd-brain-markers-21931/ https://neurosciencenews.com/adhd-brain-markers-21931/ - https://www.amenclinics.com/conditions/adhd-add/ https://www.amenclinics.com/conditions/adhd-add/ (source for the images above) - etc. This is a well documented result.