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> Remember, you _have to live somewhere_. You also _have_ to get education, healthcare and a whole lot more than nobody is doing anything about making any kin

by grecy 4y ago

> Remember, you _have to live somewhere_. You also _have_ to get education, healthcare and a whole lot more than nobody is doing anything about making any kind of affordable.

ketralnis 4y ago
Maybe those things are bad too?
rtpg 4y ago
Luckily it turns out that it _is_ possible to do multiple things at once, in theory. Especially odd to consider healthcare as "nobody is doing anything", as if this is a new political topic for debate instead of an ongoing fight for the past.... 40? years? The lack of progress isn't for lack of wanting it!
babelfish 4y ago
They should be.
larsiusprime 4y ago
You actually don't have to get an education and healthcare, although you ideally really should. But you can't opt out of physically existing in a location so long as you're still alive. And I've seen compelling evidence that inflation in healthcare and education is at least partially downstream of the housing crisis.
- capableweb 4y ago
  In that same vein, you don't really have to have a home, although you really should. With that type of thinking, the only thing you really really require to live is air, food and water, anything besides that you don't really require but is merely optional. You can live outside in a tent or under a couple of moving boxes. Myself I'd say that both having a roof over your head, education, healthcare and a bunch of other stuff is a human right, but I digress.
  - larsiusprime 4y ago
    > Myself I'd say that both having a roof over your head, education, healthcare and a bunch of other stuff is a human right, but I digress. I mean I agree, you're missing my point. > You can live outside in a tent or under a couple of moving boxes. Not legally in a lot of places you can't! The point I'm making is that while we need (and should have as a right) many good things, the need to have a home is a particularly special one because locations are in fixed supply, and not even for one minute can you opt out of existing in a location, and every location that people want to exist in is currently owned by somebody, most of whom aren't interested in sharing. And wouldn't you know it? Locations that have steady access to all that other good stuff (education, healthcare, bunch of other stuff) tend to be way more expensive than other locations, precisely because they gatekeep access to them.
giraffe_lady 4y ago
On the right track keep going.

by grecy 4y ago

> Remember, you _have to live somewhere_. You also _have_ to get education, healthcare and a whole lot more than nobody is doing anything about making any kind of affordable.

ketralnis 4y ago

Maybe those things are bad too?

rtpg 4y ago

Luckily it turns out that it _is_ possible to do multiple things at once, in theory. Especially odd to consider healthcare as "nobody is doing anything", as if this is a new political topic for debate instead of an ongoing fight for the past.... 40? years? The lack of progress isn't for lack of wanting it!

babelfish 4y ago

They should be.

larsiusprime 4y ago

You actually don't have to get an education and healthcare, although you ideally really should. But you can't opt out of physically existing in a location so long as you're still alive. And I've seen compelling evidence that inflation in healthcare and education is at least partially downstream of the housing crisis.

capableweb 4y ago
In that same vein, you don't really have to have a home, although you really should. With that type of thinking, the only thing you really really require to live is air, food and water, anything besides that you don't really require but is merely optional. You can live outside in a tent or under a couple of moving boxes. Myself I'd say that both having a roof over your head, education, healthcare and a bunch of other stuff is a human right, but I digress.
- larsiusprime 4y ago
  > Myself I'd say that both having a roof over your head, education, healthcare and a bunch of other stuff is a human right, but I digress. I mean I agree, you're missing my point. > You can live outside in a tent or under a couple of moving boxes. Not legally in a lot of places you can't! The point I'm making is that while we need (and should have as a right) many good things, the need to have a home is a particularly special one because locations are in fixed supply, and not even for one minute can you opt out of existing in a location, and every location that people want to exist in is currently owned by somebody, most of whom aren't interested in sharing. And wouldn't you know it? Locations that have steady access to all that other good stuff (education, healthcare, bunch of other stuff) tend to be way more expensive than other locations, precisely because they gatekeep access to them.

giraffe_lady 4y ago

On the right track keep going.