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A Peek Inside the FBI’s Unprecedented January 6 Geofence Dragnet

18 points by Stratoscope 4y ago

monsecchris 4y ago
Looks like the FBI used geofence warrants of similar scope and scale for other similar events in that time period, here[1] is one for another set of rioters committing arson. [1] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21197805-seattle-fbi-geofence-warrant-oct-2020 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21197805-seattle-fbi...
2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
It's a warrant meaning they have reason to assume they broke the law. Considering everybody who stormed the capitol was breaking the law, it actually makes sense here.
- quantified 4y ago
  Violent crowd breaking into the Capitol was unprecedented in the era of geofencing, too. Sitting presidents ginning a crowd up against Congress was unprecedented. Lots of precedence established by this sequence of events.
- jimmygrapes 4y ago
  Not commenting on substance here but I am curious about phrasing. Why did you say "storming the capitol"? For reference I've been running a personal linguistic influence project where I'm tracking where certain oft-used phrases came into common parlance and this is one that arose as a clear winner in recent years (see also Google n-gram viewer). "Storming the Capitol" vs "Violent right-wing insurrection" vs "Stop the steal" vs "mostly peaceful protest" are the main trigrams I associate with that period, and I've been trying to track where those terms are used most. I've ordered them there by most used, FYI. The thing that gets me is that "storming" seems like a very focus-grouped marketing term.
  - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
    What's the definition of the verb: storm?
    - snypher 4y ago
      Dictionary.com; to rage or complain with violence or fury, or, to subject to or as if to a storm, or, to utter or say with angry vehemence.
      - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
        You forgot a few: "to deliver a violent attack or fire", "to rush angrily", "to attack or assault (persons, places, or things)" https://www.dictionary.com/browse/storm https://www.dictionary.com/browse/storm
  - spookie 4y ago
    Because it is. Don't get me wrong, what they did is unprecedented, and wrong. But as an outsider, that phrase struck me in the same manner. I've seen a lot of these in US politics too, weird to think about it, heh?
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  - hairofadog 4y ago
    That's a pretty common phrase that I've heard frequently in contexts like "she came storming into the lunchroom accusing everybody of {whatever}". If some folks here think it's strange and others don't, it may be a regional thing.
  - pyuser583 4y ago
    I doubt it was the result of a focus group. Probably came about organically then was amplified.

18 points by Stratoscope 4y ago

Looks like the FBI used geofence warrants of similar scope and scale for other similar events in that time period, here[1] is one for another set of rioters committing arson. [1] https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21197805-seattle-fbi-geofence-warrant-oct-2020 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21197805-seattle-fbi...

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

It's a warrant meaning they have reason to assume they broke the law. Considering everybody who stormed the capitol was breaking the law, it actually makes sense here.

quantified 4y ago
Violent crowd breaking into the Capitol was unprecedented in the era of geofencing, too. Sitting presidents ginning a crowd up against Congress was unprecedented. Lots of precedence established by this sequence of events.
jimmygrapes 4y ago
Not commenting on substance here but I am curious about phrasing. Why did you say "storming the capitol"? For reference I've been running a personal linguistic influence project where I'm tracking where certain oft-used phrases came into common parlance and this is one that arose as a clear winner in recent years (see also Google n-gram viewer). "Storming the Capitol" vs "Violent right-wing insurrection" vs "Stop the steal" vs "mostly peaceful protest" are the main trigrams I associate with that period, and I've been trying to track where those terms are used most. I've ordered them there by most used, FYI. The thing that gets me is that "storming" seems like a very focus-grouped marketing term.
- 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
  What's the definition of the verb: storm?
  - snypher 4y ago
    Dictionary.com; to rage or complain with violence or fury, or, to subject to or as if to a storm, or, to utter or say with angry vehemence.
    - 2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
      You forgot a few: "to deliver a violent attack or fire", "to rush angrily", "to attack or assault (persons, places, or things)" https://www.dictionary.com/browse/storm https://www.dictionary.com/browse/storm
- spookie 4y ago
  Because it is. Don't get me wrong, what they did is unprecedented, and wrong. But as an outsider, that phrase struck me in the same manner. I've seen a lot of these in US politics too, weird to think about it, heh?
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- hairofadog 4y ago
  That's a pretty common phrase that I've heard frequently in contexts like "she came storming into the lunchroom accusing everybody of {whatever}". If some folks here think it's strange and others don't, it may be a regional thing.
- pyuser583 4y ago
  I doubt it was the result of a focus group. Probably came about organically then was amplified.