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I find people taking this strategy interesting, especially as we approach the 3 year mark. Do you plan on doing this forever? Is there something you expect to c

I find people taking this strategy interesting, especially as we approach the 3 year mark. Do you plan on doing this forever? Is there something you expect to change that would lower your/the risk thus allowing you to live a more normal social life? ("Normal" for lack of better word) For context, I've been back in the office for more than a year at this point (haven't worn a mask in a year either). I'm pretty sure people come to work sick like they always did and don't even get a covid test most of the time any more. It feels kind of like flu/colds were prior to Covid; where it's an honor rule with no benefit of being honest and staying home when sick. I'm pretty indifferent towards people still taking the extra measures (your choice) but it does seem like an inconvenience with no end in sight (IMO). Edit: They added more context to their comment after mine. "Zero times here (: I make all of my own meals and always wear a mask out." is all there was previously. I can't comment so maybe I got flagged. No ill intention, you do you and I'm sure you have reasons that are none of my business but we're here to talk. I'm mostly just curious because I see this a lot online and it seems like there's a whole class of people that intend to just be hermits forever now (my assumption) and it intrigues me on why you'd just give in to it like that; unless you already had hermit tendencies or some increased risk factors.

thinkmcfly 4y ago
I'll do it forever at the grocery store or any other place that has lots of people. I do plan on going to a maskless social weekend soon with a half dozen buddies, but everyone there will have up to date vaccinations and be tested
ianai 4y ago
They said they interact with old people - the group with the highest death rates. Not that anyone has to explain why they don't want an infectious disease to anyone else.
HDThoreaun 4y ago
I would like to see a lot more masking in general. In asian societies it has long been normal to see people masked up in public, not sure why we can't have that in the west other than a culture of extreme individualism. Why can't people who come to work sick just wear a mask? I kind of enjoy wearing the mask though so a bit biased. Just feels pretty rude to knowingly expose other people when you are/might be sick.
- theironhammer 4y ago
  An N95 mask or better protects maybe. The other common masks are useless against Omicron. Maybe a respirator type mask? COVID is here with us just like the common cold/flu. It's never going away.
  - spoils19 4y ago
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    - sixstringtheory 4y ago
      This makes no sense to me. First, it doesn’t seem like it is the same as the common cold. I’ve had it twice now. It sucked both times, hard. I’ve had plenty of colds, not one came close. The flu felt worse but for a much shorter time, the duration of the suckiness I think wins out with covid. Second, why did “they” need to test a new drug or so rapidly? Why couldn’t they just go through the normal process and make tons of money off of it like other pharmaceuticals?
    - piva00 4y ago
      > From talking to friends in generally high intelligence states, COVID basically _is_ the common cold. The common cold doesn't infect organs through the ACE2 receptor, including: heart, pancreas, brain and so on. Not sure what you mean with "generally high intelligence states", to me it's almost a meaningless statement. Whatever high intelligence you mean with that they're wrong, we know that COVID isn't the normal cold and that it can wreck your body much more than the common rhinovirus... > Luckily, those free-thinkers saw the plan early and stressed to the community to not get the vaccine. Why do you value contrarians in such higher regard than the medical and scientific community? Is it a search for a truth that only you know and to be special or are you just generally a contrarian, cynical person that loves to go against the grain? I have many reservations about how governments tackled the pandemic, that doesn't mean that it's a hoax, that doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. I had it twice and didn't suffer much more than the brain fog for a couple of weeks and losing my taste and smell the first time for 5 days, at the same time I know people who died from this. I seriously cannot comprehend how people after 3 years into this can still believe it's all a hoax, it's mind-boggling and I've tried hard to empathise and understand where it stems from but it seems so far away from actual reality that I simply cannot comprehend. The depths of human stupidity are probably too deep for my simpleton mind to understand...
rob74 4y ago
> like flu/colds were prior to Covid; where it's an honor rule with no benefit of being honest and staying home when sick no benefit, except for your own health? If you have the flu, Covid or any other serious infection, you should definitely stay at home and get some rest - not for others, but for yourself.
- Spartan-S63 4y ago
  Sure, but without mandated paid sick leave, people don't stay home. When it's the difference between going to work to scrape by, or stay home and have trouble making rent or buying food, most folks choose to go to work sick. We're a society that doesn't value collective health very much.
  - piva00 4y ago
    You should add a qualifier that you are from the USA. Where I live it's completely frowned upon to go to work sick, to the point where you will be told off by your manager, your colleagues will think it's rude and disrespectful, etc. I simply do not understand how the USA doesn't provide sick leave for workers, does that stem from a lack of trust between employers and employees? It seems to me that the only reason to make it difficult for people to get paid leave when they're sick is that employers feel it'd be abused and hence treat their employees as children, perpetuating the cycle of mistrust. I cannot see another reason for such a basic need for the general health of society to be missing...
    - Spartan-S63 4y ago
      That's fair that I should add a qualifier that I'm from the US. The only reason I can think of is exactly what you pointed out: that it would be abused. It's really not. Most people want to work. Most people want to feel productive and that they're meaningfully doing something. It's why the myth of the welfare queen is so ridiculous or employees exploiting paid leave is equally ridiculous. The abusers are the exception to the rule, so don't punish the majority for the acts of an extreme minority.
archagon 4y ago
Personally, I have no issue with continuing to wear an N95 mask indoors for years to come.

thinkmcfly 4y ago

I'll do it forever at the grocery store or any other place that has lots of people. I do plan on going to a maskless social weekend soon with a half dozen buddies, but everyone there will have up to date vaccinations and be tested

ianai 4y ago

They said they interact with old people - the group with the highest death rates. Not that anyone has to explain why they don't want an infectious disease to anyone else.

HDThoreaun 4y ago

I would like to see a lot more masking in general. In asian societies it has long been normal to see people masked up in public, not sure why we can't have that in the west other than a culture of extreme individualism. Why can't people who come to work sick just wear a mask? I kind of enjoy wearing the mask though so a bit biased. Just feels pretty rude to knowingly expose other people when you are/might be sick.

theironhammer 4y ago
An N95 mask or better protects maybe. The other common masks are useless against Omicron. Maybe a respirator type mask? COVID is here with us just like the common cold/flu. It's never going away.
- spoils19 4y ago
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  - sixstringtheory 4y ago
    This makes no sense to me. First, it doesn’t seem like it is the same as the common cold. I’ve had it twice now. It sucked both times, hard. I’ve had plenty of colds, not one came close. The flu felt worse but for a much shorter time, the duration of the suckiness I think wins out with covid. Second, why did “they” need to test a new drug or so rapidly? Why couldn’t they just go through the normal process and make tons of money off of it like other pharmaceuticals?
  - piva00 4y ago
    > From talking to friends in generally high intelligence states, COVID basically _is_ the common cold. The common cold doesn't infect organs through the ACE2 receptor, including: heart, pancreas, brain and so on. Not sure what you mean with "generally high intelligence states", to me it's almost a meaningless statement. Whatever high intelligence you mean with that they're wrong, we know that COVID isn't the normal cold and that it can wreck your body much more than the common rhinovirus... > Luckily, those free-thinkers saw the plan early and stressed to the community to not get the vaccine. Why do you value contrarians in such higher regard than the medical and scientific community? Is it a search for a truth that only you know and to be special or are you just generally a contrarian, cynical person that loves to go against the grain? I have many reservations about how governments tackled the pandemic, that doesn't mean that it's a hoax, that doesn't mean it isn't dangerous. I had it twice and didn't suffer much more than the brain fog for a couple of weeks and losing my taste and smell the first time for 5 days, at the same time I know people who died from this. I seriously cannot comprehend how people after 3 years into this can still believe it's all a hoax, it's mind-boggling and I've tried hard to empathise and understand where it stems from but it seems so far away from actual reality that I simply cannot comprehend. The depths of human stupidity are probably too deep for my simpleton mind to understand...

rob74 4y ago

> like flu/colds were prior to Covid; where it's an honor rule with no benefit of being honest and staying home when sick no benefit, except for your own health? If you have the flu, Covid or any other serious infection, you should definitely stay at home and get some rest - not for others, but for yourself.

Spartan-S63 4y ago
Sure, but without mandated paid sick leave, people don't stay home. When it's the difference between going to work to scrape by, or stay home and have trouble making rent or buying food, most folks choose to go to work sick. We're a society that doesn't value collective health very much.
- piva00 4y ago
  You should add a qualifier that you are from the USA. Where I live it's completely frowned upon to go to work sick, to the point where you will be told off by your manager, your colleagues will think it's rude and disrespectful, etc. I simply do not understand how the USA doesn't provide sick leave for workers, does that stem from a lack of trust between employers and employees? It seems to me that the only reason to make it difficult for people to get paid leave when they're sick is that employers feel it'd be abused and hence treat their employees as children, perpetuating the cycle of mistrust. I cannot see another reason for such a basic need for the general health of society to be missing...
  - Spartan-S63 4y ago
    That's fair that I should add a qualifier that I'm from the US. The only reason I can think of is exactly what you pointed out: that it would be abused. It's really not. Most people want to work. Most people want to feel productive and that they're meaningfully doing something. It's why the myth of the welfare queen is so ridiculous or employees exploiting paid leave is equally ridiculous. The abusers are the exception to the rule, so don't punish the majority for the acts of an extreme minority.

archagon 4y ago

Personally, I have no issue with continuing to wear an N95 mask indoors for years to come.