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Or you eat meat, take care of what you in your body, and know these meat substitutes are a gimmick to put "health halos" on highly processed soy products that w
by ok123456 4y ago
Or you eat meat, take care of what you in your body, and know these meat substitutes are a gimmick to put "health halos" on highly processed soy products that were formerly just sold to prisons.
- wishinghand 4y agoThey're processed, but not soy. Mostly pea protein.
- ok123456 4y agoPea protein is a garbage incomplete protein too.
- AlexandrB 4y agoWhat is an "incomplete" protein? I'm aware that the human body needs certain fatty acids that it can't produce. But protein?
- mizzack 4y agoIncomplete protein refers to amino acid profile.
- stjohnswarts 4y agoThere are a group of amino acids that the body has to get externally. There are a few veggies that do have all those amino acids, but I guess soy and peas don't
- danans 4y ago> There are a few veggies that do have all those amino acids, but I guess soy and peas don't You guess incorrectly. Soy is a complete protein. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19145965/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/19145965/
- stjohnswarts 4y agoComplete in the case of containing relatively minute amounts of some of them. You would have to eat an amazing amount of soy per day to get enough.
- bawolff 4y agoProtein is made up of different amino acids. If a food has all 9 essential amino acids humans need its called a "complete" protein. It really does not matter, since presumably that is not the only food you eat. You need all the amino acids, but like any other nutrient, you don't need them all from the exact same source. As long as all the food you eat balances out the needed nutrients, you are good. It'd be like saying, apples are unhealthy because it doesn't have literally every nutrient and if you only ate apples for the rest of your life you would be malnourished. Which is true but also a silly thing to say because nobody eats only apples.
- wishinghand 4y agoYou're moving the goalposts here, but neither the person I'm replying to nor you are really providing anything compelling about how unfit these are for consumption.
- ok123456 4y agoWrong. Whether it's pea or soy, it's a distinction without a difference. They're substitutes that really offer no real quantifiable or societal health benefit that make people feel better about their consumption.
- wishinghand 4y agoSure dude.
- anthlax 4y agoThis firmly puts you in the first category
- linsomniac 4y agoFor me, and I'm not sure how widespread this opinion is, it's not a health halo. I treat beyond/impossible burgers like I treat beef burgers: an occasional dietary splurge. I like them for a few reasons: more sustainably sourced, signalling with my pocketbook that alternatives are important, getting my kids ok with not eating meat occasionally (meatless Mondays sort of thing).
- ok123456 4y agoThe main feature then is that these products make you feel better about your consumption.
- linsomniac 4y agoPersonally, I'd say: These products make me feel like part of the solution rather than part of the problem WRT climate change and Lake Mead drying up.
- ok123456 4y agoYes that's what they're designed to do. Make you "feel" like you can contribute to meaningful solution not by pressuring large industrial polluters to do something but rather just make minor changes in your personal consumption habits.
- linsomniac 4y agoI'm not sure why you're putting "feel" in quotes, voting with your pocketbook is a legitimate way of signalling to large industrial polluters to do something, right?
- ok123456 4y agoNot in the least. Consumerism is not a substitute for real policy. Imagine if instead of freeing the slaves, Abraham Lincoln just instead made "Freedom Credits" that were issued to businesses that didn't use slave labor, but it allowed companies that used slave labor to purchase surplus "Freedom Credits" as offsets so they could claim they're making progress towards their ESG goals. Maybe it would become part of these companies advertising like "Fairtrade" has. The net result is that we would still have some kind of chattel slavery. As ridiculous as this sounds, this is what we are doing when we defer to market based solutions to help nibble away at real policy issues. Also, consumer choices are already highly constrained by what the market bares.
- AlexandrB 4y agoLobsters were formerly just sold to prisons, but I still love eating the little dudes. This isn't a very persuasive argument.