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> IF the virus was lab-borne, and IF the CCP know it was, is it not (very, very remotely) possible they know more about the consequences of this virus? Huh? S

by amluto 4y ago

> IF the virus was lab-borne, and IF the CCP know it was, is it not (very, very remotely) possible they know more about the consequences of this virus? Huh? Suppose it did come from a lab, by malice, incompetence, bad luck, or otherwise. Why would this imply that China knows more about it than anyone else? (Sure, China would have known more about it in the first few months. And they surely did regardless of whether it came from a lab: after all, it was primarily in China for a little while, and China extensively studied its cases. But it’s been years, and the world has studied Covid far more than any one lab could possibly have studied it.)

wongarsu 4y ago
I guess the idea is that China was studying SARS-like viruses in animals, maybe mutating or genetically modifying them to learn more about them, and at some point, one escaped through incompetence. Especially early on this would obviously give China a big information advantage, as they had all their existing research to look at, and might have a more complete picture than anyone else (regarding heritage and other strains). Now that SARS-CoV-2 has been in the wild for three years its questionable if they would still have an advantage. But they might have better data about long-term effects, if only from animal tests, simply because they would have had more than three years to study it.
apostacy 4y ago
> Suppose it did come from a lab, by malice, incompetence, bad luck, or otherwise. Why would this imply that China knows more about it than anyone else? Because the Chinese government started reacting to it as early as fall 2019, despite the best efforts of American big tech companies to cover it up. Because people made the very reasonable assumption that the unusual and highly virulent form of COVID that originated right near one of the only places on the planet where they were specifically creating that virus actually came from that lab. I am still in awe of people's continued denial about this. Even the mainstream media is reluctantly admitting it now, just search for "lab leak" on Google News. Anyone that paid any attention to so called "conspiracy" news sources knew about COVID well in advance. Back in December 2019 I saw countless videos of Chinese soldiers in hazmat suits rounding up civilians while they begged for their lives. And most "informed" people were in denial until February or March 2020. So, perhaps if you can admit you were wrong about COVID at the start of the pandemic, perhaps you are also wrong about it now?
- andybak 4y ago
  Sorry. 2019. What?

by amluto 4y ago

wongarsu 4y ago

I guess the idea is that China was studying SARS-like viruses in animals, maybe mutating or genetically modifying them to learn more about them, and at some point, one escaped through incompetence. Especially early on this would obviously give China a big information advantage, as they had all their existing research to look at, and might have a more complete picture than anyone else (regarding heritage and other strains). Now that SARS-CoV-2 has been in the wild for three years its questionable if they would still have an advantage. But they might have better data about long-term effects, if only from animal tests, simply because they would have had more than three years to study it.

apostacy 4y ago

> Suppose it did come from a lab, by malice, incompetence, bad luck, or otherwise. Why would this imply that China knows more about it than anyone else? Because the Chinese government started reacting to it as early as fall 2019, despite the best efforts of American big tech companies to cover it up. Because people made the very reasonable assumption that the unusual and highly virulent form of COVID that originated right near one of the only places on the planet where they were specifically creating that virus actually came from that lab. I am still in awe of people's continued denial about this. Even the mainstream media is reluctantly admitting it now, just search for "lab leak" on Google News. Anyone that paid any attention to so called "conspiracy" news sources knew about COVID well in advance. Back in December 2019 I saw countless videos of Chinese soldiers in hazmat suits rounding up civilians while they begged for their lives. And most "informed" people were in denial until February or March 2020. So, perhaps if you can admit you were wrong about COVID at the start of the pandemic, perhaps you are also wrong about it now?

andybak 4y ago
Sorry. 2019. What?