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>But more diversity in trash collectors is unlikely to result in more diversity in CEOs. The opposite is much more true. You think more diversity in CEOs will

by alickz 4y ago

>But more diversity in trash collectors is unlikely to result in more diversity in CEOs. The opposite is much more true. You think more diversity in CEOs will result in more diversity for trash collectors?

mcv 4y ago
I think more diversity in positions of power will lead to more diversity across all aspects of society.
- alickz 4y ago
  Why? Not being rhetorical, genuinely curious to the reasoning.
  - mcv 4y ago
    Why wouldn't it? If the people making the decisions are more diverse, represent more different walks of life, demographic groups, etc, the decisions made will take more situations into account. Less incorrect assumptions will be made about one size fitting all, because that one size doesn't fit the people making the decision.
    - josteink 4y ago
      > If the people making the decisions are more diverse Sorry for being pessimistic and realistic here, but I honestly don't think that what you get when you mix a white man from an Ivy-league school, a black man from an Ivy-league school and a woman from an Ivy-league school, all from the same closed upper-class social circles, is in any significant way more "diverse" than if it had all white men from those same Ivy-league schools. Hiring people (men/women/colored/gay/trans/whatever) from actual other social circles probably will though. That will provide real diversity. But that's not what anyone is mandating or wants to shove down other people's throats.
      - mcv 4y ago
        That is also an excellent point. It's a bit harder to get objective figures on, though. Still, these are goals that lie in the same direction, and breaking up the old old-boys networks is going to be part of both. Also keep in mind that lots of companies are already doing this, and have been for a while. Lots of companies today have much more diverse boards, in several dimensions, than they had 30 years ago.

by alickz 4y ago

mcv 4y ago

I think more diversity in positions of power will lead to more diversity across all aspects of society.

alickz 4y ago
Why? Not being rhetorical, genuinely curious to the reasoning.
- mcv 4y ago
  Why wouldn't it? If the people making the decisions are more diverse, represent more different walks of life, demographic groups, etc, the decisions made will take more situations into account. Less incorrect assumptions will be made about one size fitting all, because that one size doesn't fit the people making the decision.
  - josteink 4y ago
    > If the people making the decisions are more diverse Sorry for being pessimistic and realistic here, but I honestly don't think that what you get when you mix a white man from an Ivy-league school, a black man from an Ivy-league school and a woman from an Ivy-league school, all from the same closed upper-class social circles, is in any significant way more "diverse" than if it had all white men from those same Ivy-league schools. Hiring people (men/women/colored/gay/trans/whatever) from actual other social circles probably will though. That will provide real diversity. But that's not what anyone is mandating or wants to shove down other people's throats.
    - mcv 4y ago
      That is also an excellent point. It's a bit harder to get objective figures on, though. Still, these are goals that lie in the same direction, and breaking up the old old-boys networks is going to be part of both. Also keep in mind that lots of companies are already doing this, and have been for a while. Lots of companies today have much more diverse boards, in several dimensions, than they had 30 years ago.