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> I think the jobs that have survived thousands of years will likely survive another 50 That's a strange assumption. So the world will completely change but fo

> I think the jobs that have survived thousands of years will likely survive another 50 That's a strange assumption. So the world will completely change but for some reason only these ones will remain intact and untouched? Btw most farmers are out of job compared to the early 20th century. Now a single farmer produces what 100's or more produced before.

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defrost 4y ago
So, we're agreed then that farming as a profession remains? I'm smack bang in the middle of a large agricultural region and while farm areas are larger than ever before they are multi million dollar (in annual cash flow) family businesses still. They have massive sheds, small fleets of machinery, WAN's and storage, welding shops, silos .. and are still extended family businesses that are crying out for more boots on the ground. The nature of farming has changed and will continue to change, but there will continue to be farmers; the robot that fixes the robots will get bogged and need repair itself.
jamager 4y ago
Exactly, farming is a good example. It was the dominant economy sector 100 years ago, and still is in many countries. Right now less than 2% of world population works on farming, if I am not mistaken. But all the massive improvements, all the low hanging fruit it's gone - at least when you look at the next 50 years. The more something is optimized, the harder is to optimize it harder.
- jacknews 4y ago
  No way, our food will come from 'labs' aka giant grow warehouses etc in 50 years. The only 'recognizable' farmers, ie tiling the soil, milking cows, herding sheep, and so-on, will be subsisting in poor countries or will be organic artisans. Innovation is at an inflection point for our food system.
  - kcplate 4y ago
    > our food will come from 'labs' aka giant grow warehouses etc in 50 years I heard this same prediction 40+ years ago.
    - jacknews 4y ago
      But the solution then was just to cut down more forests and throw some more chemicals in the soil. That's not going to work any more, and the tech for indoor farming, LEDS, vertical farming, biotech (heme, cells feeding on co2 and electricity) etc, is just now becoming viable.
      - ep103 4y ago
        Hey, this is completely separate from your current conversation, but I just saw your post here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8869890#8870443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8869890#8870443) from a couple of years ago. I love the logo. I've been using the glider for years, but just learned about Eric Raymond's racist tirades and the like, and was looking for something to replace it with. If its okay with you, I'll change it up a little bit (maybe change the color or etc), and use it for my personal projects? I would have replied on the linked comment above, but its so old replies are turned off. Hope your hackerspace is still going strong : )
        jacknews 4y ago
        Yes sure, totally forgotten I'd posted that, for anyone else the logo is here https://imgur.com/ba7o9i0 https://imgur.com/ba7o9i0 The different shades were meant to represent different kinds of people coming together at our hackerspace which is sadly no more, and green for growth obviously, but feel free to change it around to suit. It animates (in the game of life) up and to the right BTW, unlike Raymond's version which goes down...
        ep103 4y ago
        Awesome, thank you. Sad to hear about the hackerspace. But love the logo : D Its kinda nuts how much better it is than the original, for all the reasons you mentioned here and in the previous post : D

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defrost 4y ago

So, we're agreed then that farming as a profession remains? I'm smack bang in the middle of a large agricultural region and while farm areas are larger than ever before they are multi million dollar (in annual cash flow) family businesses still. They have massive sheds, small fleets of machinery, WAN's and storage, welding shops, silos .. and are still extended family businesses that are crying out for more boots on the ground. The nature of farming has changed and will continue to change, but there will continue to be farmers; the robot that fixes the robots will get bogged and need repair itself.

jamager 4y ago

Exactly, farming is a good example. It was the dominant economy sector 100 years ago, and still is in many countries. Right now less than 2% of world population works on farming, if I am not mistaken. But all the massive improvements, all the low hanging fruit it's gone - at least when you look at the next 50 years. The more something is optimized, the harder is to optimize it harder.

jacknews 4y ago
No way, our food will come from 'labs' aka giant grow warehouses etc in 50 years. The only 'recognizable' farmers, ie tiling the soil, milking cows, herding sheep, and so-on, will be subsisting in poor countries or will be organic artisans. Innovation is at an inflection point for our food system.
- kcplate 4y ago
  > our food will come from 'labs' aka giant grow warehouses etc in 50 years I heard this same prediction 40+ years ago.
  - jacknews 4y ago
    But the solution then was just to cut down more forests and throw some more chemicals in the soil. That's not going to work any more, and the tech for indoor farming, LEDS, vertical farming, biotech (heme, cells feeding on co2 and electricity) etc, is just now becoming viable.
    - ep103 4y ago
      Hey, this is completely separate from your current conversation, but I just saw your post here (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8869890#8870443 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8869890#8870443) from a couple of years ago. I love the logo. I've been using the glider for years, but just learned about Eric Raymond's racist tirades and the like, and was looking for something to replace it with. If its okay with you, I'll change it up a little bit (maybe change the color or etc), and use it for my personal projects? I would have replied on the linked comment above, but its so old replies are turned off. Hope your hackerspace is still going strong : )
      - jacknews 4y ago
        Yes sure, totally forgotten I'd posted that, for anyone else the logo is here https://imgur.com/ba7o9i0 https://imgur.com/ba7o9i0 The different shades were meant to represent different kinds of people coming together at our hackerspace which is sadly no more, and green for growth obviously, but feel free to change it around to suit. It animates (in the game of life) up and to the right BTW, unlike Raymond's version which goes down...
        ep103 4y ago
        Awesome, thank you. Sad to hear about the hackerspace. But love the logo : D Its kinda nuts how much better it is than the original, for all the reasons you mentioned here and in the previous post : D