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That's simply not true. There are numerous problem domains in AI where Chinese research groups are advancing the SOTA, or at least are well-presented at the for

That's simply not true. There are numerous problem domains in AI where Chinese research groups are advancing the SOTA, or at least are well-presented at the forefront. Your comment reads like little more than casual racism to me.

jackblemming 4y ago
Such as?
greatpostman 4y ago
No I read the academic research all the time. Most state of the art papers take an existing method and incrementally change the model to get a better result. They aren’t real advances. Anyone that actually publishes and works in the field knows this. Basically all major advances have come from Fb/google
airgapstopgap 4y ago
This is such a brazen deflection I had to create an account to point it out. Racism, seriously? No, papers that advance the SOTA, and more importantly introduce powerful novel concepts and techniques, have plenty of ethnic Chinese authors. The Chinese are very numerous in the field, just like in software in general, unsurprisingly. It's just those authors overwhelmingly work in the United States, and rarely in other allied countries. Perhaps the highest-cited ML paper that can be attributed to Mainland China is still affiliated with Microsoft [1]. The fearmongering is miscalibrated, whether it be about PRC-developed AGI or about Chinese people stealing our tech. To a great extent, they are building it. Native Chinese development, on the other hand, is exactly like OP says, incremental and constrained to internal-policing-related niches like face recognition (actually that's pretty much it). They also opensource pretty powerful models [2], [3], so that's nice of them. But nothing seriously game-breaking. 1. https://arxiv.org/abs/1506.01497 https://arxiv.org/abs/1506.01497 2. https://huggingface.co/spaces/THUDM/GLM-130B https://huggingface.co/spaces/THUDM/GLM-130B 3. https://huggingface.co/BAAI/EVA https://huggingface.co/BAAI/EVA

jackblemming 4y ago

Such as?

greatpostman 4y ago

No I read the academic research all the time. Most state of the art papers take an existing method and incrementally change the model to get a better result. They aren’t real advances. Anyone that actually publishes and works in the field knows this. Basically all major advances have come from Fb/google

airgapstopgap 4y ago

This is such a brazen deflection I had to create an account to point it out. Racism, seriously? No, papers that advance the SOTA, and more importantly introduce powerful novel concepts and techniques, have plenty of ethnic Chinese authors. The Chinese are very numerous in the field, just like in software in general, unsurprisingly. It's just those authors overwhelmingly work in the United States, and rarely in other allied countries. Perhaps the highest-cited ML paper that can be attributed to Mainland China is still affiliated with Microsoft [1]. The fearmongering is miscalibrated, whether it be about PRC-developed AGI or about Chinese people stealing our tech. To a great extent, they are building it. Native Chinese development, on the other hand, is exactly like OP says, incremental and constrained to internal-policing-related niches like face recognition (actually that's pretty much it). They also opensource pretty powerful models [2], [3], so that's nice of them. But nothing seriously game-breaking. 1. https://arxiv.org/abs/1506.01497 https://arxiv.org/abs/1506.01497 2. https://huggingface.co/spaces/THUDM/GLM-130B https://huggingface.co/spaces/THUDM/GLM-130B 3. https://huggingface.co/BAAI/EVA https://huggingface.co/BAAI/EVA