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I think the idea is that it becomes like fruit and vegetables. You purchase them unwrapped, wash them, and eat them. This would have implications on the supply
by morepork 4y ago
I think the idea is that it becomes like fruit and vegetables. You purchase them unwrapped, wash them, and eat them. This would have implications on the supply chain of course to try and keep these items clean.
It could also replace individually wrapped items, such as in a box of cereal bars the individual bars wouldn't need plastic wrap.
- 9wzYQbTYsAIc 4y agoFrom the article: “The cranberry film can work as a replacement for film plastic, protecting fruits and vegetables with delicate skins, such as English cucumbers.”
- WirelessGigabit 4y agoMy protein bars need individual wrap. I am not putting them 'naked' inside of my hiking backpack. Not to mention how nasty the last one is when it takes you 2 months to finish a box... All of them exposed to air? Thanks but no thanks.
- Renaud 4y agoThat’s what tin boxes are for. They keep their content fresh and protect it.
- lazide 4y agoSo a container for your wrapped product? That gets full of random lint and dust? Meh.
- jonasdegendt 4y agoYou seem quite hell-bent on denouncing containers. Yet, a good container with a plastic seal on the lid will keep your food completely clean and be pretty airtight to keep it fresh for a while.
- lazide 4y ago‘Hell-bent’? Really? I use reusable containers for 90% of the stuff I use, especially tools, projects, etc. I also use glass reusable containers all the time for food, as they don’t soak up weird smells and stains that can’t be cleaned out, and have bacterial problems and leeching issues like reusable plastic containers. They aren’t practical for anywhere they’ll be exposed to impacts a lot or weight matters, like kids lunches or whatever, so I use plastic ones there. But I’m under no illusions that any of those make any sense whatsoever for large scale food distribution, and neither should anyone else.
- ArnoVW 4y agoThis is how your parents and grandparents lived. Stuff got dirty, and instead of tossing it after having used it once, they.. washed it! When I go shopping, I: * bring my own bag * buy oat, rice, sugar, pasta, chocolate etc in bulk (w/ textile bags I bring) * refill detergent containers in-shop * buy fruit & veg without packaging .. and I have no meaningful reduction of my living standard. I know it's difficult to make some sacrifices. But honestly, if we can't as a society be ars*d to do even that, perhaps we deserve to disappear after ecological collapse, and the geopolitical consequences of that.
- lazide 4y agoAnd all of them switched to the current state of affairs the moment they could. Their parents too. Weird huh?
- numpad0 4y agoI've heard that there is a powder processing device called entoleter that are typically NOT used in Europe for grain and powdered food products, as ambient temperature is low enough for bugs to hatch and grow on such food in considerable likelihood. What I'm saying is, the chance of that happening IS considerably high elsewhere, and in such elsewhere it is imperative that oat, rice, not sugar but pasta, and chocolate, must be denied of life under sterile light of an ultra processing foodstuff factory and somewhat hermetically sealed. Otherwise you wouldn't know what you'll be getting later. Just something which reason isn't immediately obvious sometimes.
- morepork 4y agoThe bars wouldn't be exposed to air, that's what edible wraps like what is described in the article are for. For backpacks and the like you will need something else to keep it clean, same as you would for an apple. May I present to you the lunch box, already used by 100s of millions.
- seer 4y agoBut would you put an apple “naked”? A cucumber? A tomato? At least for me - when I hike I usually have a box and put all of those items there “raw” - the box protects them from mechanical forces but I don’t need to individually wrap my apples inside that box. Having other edible things have such an edible covering would be amazing actually.
- King-Aaron 4y agoFruits and vegetables tend to have their own inbuilt wrapping that protects them from dirt, moisture, etc. Whereas an oat bar or protein bar is often quite porous and would get impregnated with dirt and stuff very quickly. It's an absurd comparison to make.
- bee_rider 4y agoThis thread was kicked off by discussion of an edible plastic-like wrapper (which would be analogous to the fruit skin).
- gen220 4y agoFWIW, if you're curious about the insights from somebody who's crusty enough to make their own protein bars :) If you care about avoiding "processed foods" in other domains and are consuming shrink-wrapped bars with a shelf life of 2+ months: here be dragons! I store ours in a glass container the refrigerator, where they're individually wrapped in butcher paper. I'd consider them good outside of the fridge (in the paper) for 32 hours, inside the fridge for a week or two. Making a batch takes about 10 minutes + overnight refrigeration, and the recipe is trivial to scale-up/down in size. They're certainly not as convenient or robust as shrink-wrapped lara bars, but we're not frequently in situations where the diff disappoints, ymmv.
- humanrebar 4y agoI find most "protein" bars, processed or unprocessed, are relatively low in protein and function more like energy bars, meal replacement bars, or even weight gainers. I expect the ones made without processed ingredients like protein powders to be especially in that category. Not that there's anything necessarily bad about that, but it does bug me when folk label products as "high" in protein when all the protein comes from nuts, legumes, etc.
- bee_rider 4y agoSome granola bars would probably be better considered candy bars dressed up to trick you into thinking they are healthy.
- robertlagrant 4y agoHere is your 6-monthly reminder to read the No S Diet[0] and learn its lessons on why health snacks exist. [0] http://nosdiet.com http://nosdiet.com
- gen220 4y agoAs I understand it, there's disagreement on how efficiently the body absorbs/digests the protein latent in protein powder. Especially when it's in a "dry" form most commonly found in protein bars. I totally agree re the disappointing macro-nutritional composition of most protein bars. Especially disappointing (to me) is the sugar content and its source (typically rice syrup or corn syrup). After computing the macros for homemade bars, it's hard to feel like you're getting much bang for the buck with those bars -- it feels like you're better off eating some dried and mixed nuts.