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I agree and don't like Web pages that are complicated, require time, clicks, and effort to learn to use, have page content jumping around, cover the page with i

I agree and don't like Web pages that are complicated, require time, clicks, and effort to learn to use, have page content jumping around, cover the page with images requiring the user to stop what they are trying to do, change the window size and magnification, find a way to get rid of the image and do so, return the window size and screen magnification to what they were, and get back to the reason they came to the Web site. In my startup, uh, I'm on good terms with our front end developer and we agree on Web page design techniques: So, no popups, pull downs, overlays. Nothing on the screen jumps around or moves. Large, relatively bold fonts and high contrast. Always have both vertical and horizontal scroll bars. No warnings or requests to permit the site to use cookies -- the site makes no use of cookies. Hmm, maybe someone somewhere, maybe the EU, will make a big stink that we have not asked users to let us use cookies. Sounds like a good source of publicity until finally we end the stink explaining that we use no cookies and are not required to get approval for NOT using cookies! The site HTML makes nearly no use of JavaScript. Users don't login. Users are not asked to spend money or up click on some popularity counter. The server cores generate each Web page quickly, and each page sends for only about 40,000 bytes. When we convert the storage for our SQL database from rotating disk to solid state memory, the page generation will be significantly faster. Net, the site is responsive. The pages and user interface are based on just the HTML controls with one line text boxes, push buttons, links where each link is a single word in the Roman alphabet in English with a simple meaning -- page design techniques very familiar to likely 2+ billion people. Ah, we don't expect 2 billion devoted users right away and will be pleased with 1+ billion!

jodrellblank 4y ago
> "Hmm, maybe someone somewhere, maybe the EU, will make a big stink that we have not asked users to let us use cookies. Sounds like a good source of publicity until finally we end the stink explaining that we use no cookies and are not required to get approval for NOT using cookies!" The EU does not require you to ask permission to use cookies if you do not use cookies. Encouraging web developers to not use cookies, and as a consequence have no banners, is one of the positive incentives of the cookie legislation.
InCityDreams 4y ago
You're doing everything right regarding cookies, but have somehow managed to either not understand how the EU would regard your non-use of them, or your site does not exist.
- graycat 4y ago
  What I wrote is just a guess and partly a joke: Cookies and requests to permit them are now so pervasive on the Internet that NOT making such a request might cause some people to assume the site WAS using cookies WITHOUT permission and make a "stink". I still suspect that there might be some such "stink". For the EU, I was poking fun at what appears to be some heavy bureaucracy in the EU. Also I was referring to the EU as a geographic region and not necessarily a government. I was guessing a "stink" might come from some person, maybe in the media or some small organization; I didn't say or believe that my site would actually be violating some EU law. No request to permit cookies is one more way to save the users from botheration and more quickly get to the purpose of the Web site. > your site does not exist The code runs as intended, and site exists and is on the way to being available to the public. The site seems to be by a wide margin the best solution for a problem. The problem the site solves is one part of a quite general problem. There should be opportunities for more startups to solve other parts of the general problem. The general problem should be good for 2 billion users, but the part being solved by my startup might be 1% to 5% of that, that is, 20 million to 100 million. That is the site has a focused audience. The focus stands to make the audience smaller but easier to please.
dredmorbius 4y ago
Thank you, in case you don't hear that enough.

jodrellblank 4y ago

> "Hmm, maybe someone somewhere, maybe the EU, will make a big stink that we have not asked users to let us use cookies. Sounds like a good source of publicity until finally we end the stink explaining that we use no cookies and are not required to get approval for NOT using cookies!" The EU does not require you to ask permission to use cookies if you do not use cookies. Encouraging web developers to not use cookies, and as a consequence have no banners, is one of the positive incentives of the cookie legislation.

InCityDreams 4y ago

You're doing everything right regarding cookies, but have somehow managed to either not understand how the EU would regard your non-use of them, or your site does not exist.

graycat 4y ago
What I wrote is just a guess and partly a joke: Cookies and requests to permit them are now so pervasive on the Internet that NOT making such a request might cause some people to assume the site WAS using cookies WITHOUT permission and make a "stink". I still suspect that there might be some such "stink". For the EU, I was poking fun at what appears to be some heavy bureaucracy in the EU. Also I was referring to the EU as a geographic region and not necessarily a government. I was guessing a "stink" might come from some person, maybe in the media or some small organization; I didn't say or believe that my site would actually be violating some EU law. No request to permit cookies is one more way to save the users from botheration and more quickly get to the purpose of the Web site. > your site does not exist The code runs as intended, and site exists and is on the way to being available to the public. The site seems to be by a wide margin the best solution for a problem. The problem the site solves is one part of a quite general problem. There should be opportunities for more startups to solve other parts of the general problem. The general problem should be good for 2 billion users, but the part being solved by my startup might be 1% to 5% of that, that is, 20 million to 100 million. That is the site has a focused audience. The focus stands to make the audience smaller but easier to please.

dredmorbius 4y ago

Thank you, in case you don't hear that enough.