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Related to this, here's a pet peeves of mine. When YouTube is buffering a video, it shows a spinner and you can't press play or pause. Usually if something is b

Related to this, here's a pet peeves of mine. When YouTube is buffering a video, it shows a spinner and you can't press play or pause. Usually if something is buffering a lot I'm in a place with spotty internet, so I'd like to pause until I'm somewhere with better Internet. If I say pause, you should not continue playing the video under any condition. I have made my intent clear.

aendruk 4y ago
Reminds me of my Dell monitor. Years old muscle memory is: 1. Unplug laptop from monitor 2. Power off monitor but step one triggers some automatic input detection mode for about 10 seconds during which the monitor ignores its power button.
- bee_rider 4y ago
  That’s so annoying. I’d be tempted to get a power strip or smart plug and so I could revert to: unplug laptop, cut power to device. Actually — they make those “green” plugs, where power is cut from the majority of the plugs if none if flowing through the control plug. Maybe check those out.
  - medstrom 4y ago
    Cutting power is wonderful UX. It's immediate and non-negotiable. After reading the rest of this thread, I dread the inevitable smart power strips that sense the approaching toe/finger and react before it arrives...
- wtallis 4y ago
  My Samsung monitor has the same kind of problem. It's often quicker to hold down the button for several seconds and force a shutdown of the monitor, than to wait for the monitor to recover enough to be able to display the menu that has the power-off entry.
  - deleted 4y ago
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- userbinator 4y ago
  I have my monitors set to always use the same input, but the reponsiveness of the buttons/OSD on some of the newer monitors is noticeably laggy for some reason. At least 100ms if not more between pressing a button and seeing the response. Ironically, I also have some Samsung LCD monitors from around 2 decades ago (they still work, but are rather small) where the OSD response is instantaneous.
- colanderman 4y ago
  Similarly, my car (Subaru) won't let me turn off the radio for 10 seconds when I start it because it needs to display some ridiculous warning.
- uxfail8333 4y ago
  These fails are everywhere. The lift in my building used to play a 2second ding before opening the door - frustrating as waiting for a lift got longer and longer - however it progressively got slower each month - looks like the dings were stored on a decaying SD card..
thewebcount 4y ago
Oh man, so many video-related websites do this shit. It’s even worse in some cases where if you hit pause, then drag the playhead back to the beginning (say because you want to wait and show the whole thing to someone), it starts playing again as soon as you let up on the playhead. Like, I want to pause, put the playhead somewhere and still be paused. Is that so fucking hard to understand?
- Moru 4y ago
  Another bad function: You watch a movie and then suddenly have to go to work. That's fine, just put it on pause to continue watching later. You take the bike, fix whatever needed physical presence and in the meantime the spouse jumps out of her skin when the playback suddenly starts again after four-odd hours. Why would I want that function?
kjkjadksj 4y ago
Back in the day you used to be able to buffer the entire video too. So if I had a bad connection, I’d open a dozen youtube links, walk away for 5 mins, then come back and watch whatever with zero hiccup. No longer possible now that content only buffers a portion of the way, not just on youtube either. If you are on a spotty connection its therefore better to just pull the video with youtube-dl.
- jiggawatts 4y ago
  But what if you don’t watch the video? That bandwidth is wasted. Someone at Google did the math and figured they can save some single-digit percentage of their annual bandwidth spend. At their scale thats $millions and that guy got promoted for frustrating every person out there like yourself.
  - kjkjadksj 4y ago
    Maybe I will pull the video a dozen times before actually watching it now just out of spite, since my bandwidth is unmetered and theirs isn’t.
jiggawatts 4y ago
State Machines! It’s not something you had to learn just to pass a CS exam and then promptly purge from your memory. The buffering state is a state, not an arrow! User interface states should respond to inputs, including cancellation, retry, etc…
zestyping 4y ago
This has always bugged me too. The _desired state_ (playing or pausing) and the _actual state_ are two different things. Whenever these two things are different, they should have two separate representations. The problem is that they are mashed into one ambiguous representation.

aendruk 4y ago

Reminds me of my Dell monitor. Years old muscle memory is: 1. Unplug laptop from monitor 2. Power off monitor but step one triggers some automatic input detection mode for about 10 seconds during which the monitor ignores its power button.

bee_rider 4y ago
That’s so annoying. I’d be tempted to get a power strip or smart plug and so I could revert to: unplug laptop, cut power to device. Actually — they make those “green” plugs, where power is cut from the majority of the plugs if none if flowing through the control plug. Maybe check those out.
- medstrom 4y ago
  Cutting power is wonderful UX. It's immediate and non-negotiable. After reading the rest of this thread, I dread the inevitable smart power strips that sense the approaching toe/finger and react before it arrives...
wtallis 4y ago
My Samsung monitor has the same kind of problem. It's often quicker to hold down the button for several seconds and force a shutdown of the monitor, than to wait for the monitor to recover enough to be able to display the menu that has the power-off entry.
- deleted 4y ago
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userbinator 4y ago
I have my monitors set to always use the same input, but the reponsiveness of the buttons/OSD on some of the newer monitors is noticeably laggy for some reason. At least 100ms if not more between pressing a button and seeing the response. Ironically, I also have some Samsung LCD monitors from around 2 decades ago (they still work, but are rather small) where the OSD response is instantaneous.
colanderman 4y ago
Similarly, my car (Subaru) won't let me turn off the radio for 10 seconds when I start it because it needs to display some ridiculous warning.
uxfail8333 4y ago
These fails are everywhere. The lift in my building used to play a 2second ding before opening the door - frustrating as waiting for a lift got longer and longer - however it progressively got slower each month - looks like the dings were stored on a decaying SD card..

thewebcount 4y ago

Oh man, so many video-related websites do this shit. It’s even worse in some cases where if you hit pause, then drag the playhead back to the beginning (say because you want to wait and show the whole thing to someone), it starts playing again as soon as you let up on the playhead. Like, I want to pause, put the playhead somewhere and still be paused. Is that so fucking hard to understand?

Moru 4y ago
Another bad function: You watch a movie and then suddenly have to go to work. That's fine, just put it on pause to continue watching later. You take the bike, fix whatever needed physical presence and in the meantime the spouse jumps out of her skin when the playback suddenly starts again after four-odd hours. Why would I want that function?

kjkjadksj 4y ago

Back in the day you used to be able to buffer the entire video too. So if I had a bad connection, I’d open a dozen youtube links, walk away for 5 mins, then come back and watch whatever with zero hiccup. No longer possible now that content only buffers a portion of the way, not just on youtube either. If you are on a spotty connection its therefore better to just pull the video with youtube-dl.

jiggawatts 4y ago
But what if you don’t watch the video? That bandwidth is wasted. Someone at Google did the math and figured they can save some single-digit percentage of their annual bandwidth spend. At their scale thats $millions and that guy got promoted for frustrating every person out there like yourself.
- kjkjadksj 4y ago
  Maybe I will pull the video a dozen times before actually watching it now just out of spite, since my bandwidth is unmetered and theirs isn’t.

jiggawatts 4y ago

State Machines! It’s not something you had to learn just to pass a CS exam and then promptly purge from your memory. The buffering state is a state, not an arrow! User interface states should respond to inputs, including cancellation, retry, etc…

zestyping 4y ago

This has always bugged me too. The _desired state_ (playing or pausing) and the _actual state_ are two different things. Whenever these two things are different, they should have two separate representations. The problem is that they are mashed into one ambiguous representation.