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A lot of American incentives are purely aligned to generating revenue or power through lobbying. I would be hard pressed to imagine that cycling or pedestrian u

by mym1990 4y ago

A lot of American incentives are purely aligned to generating revenue or power through lobbying. I would be hard pressed to imagine that cycling or pedestrian unions have any kind of pull compared to large automakers. I absolutely love cycling through a city that has the infrastructure for it, and opt to walk to anything less than a mile away. I have been hit twice while riding a motorcycle, the first time was nearly fatal. I also drive a truck. So I guess I am the embodiment of all the good and bad of the system :( Definitely cognizant that I drive a danger machine though.

stevenwoo 4y ago
For whatever reason, motorcyclists' deaths are about up 10x times pedestrian/cyclist deaths over the same time period in the USA according to that graphic accompanying the article. Genuinely curious as non motorcyclist - is there awareness of this or collective outrage among the motorcyclists' community?
- mym1990 4y ago
  I am not sure to be honest, as I don't ride anymore(I figured 3rd strike will be the one that gets me). There is a quote that seems to ring true to me: "There's two types of riders; those who have crashed, and those who will." Most new riders don't believe it, but the truth is that whether you crash or not is almost never in your control, and being naive of this will just get you killed faster. Unfortunately, death seems to be something that is ever present if you are part of a bigger rider community, a lot of riders know someone close that passed away.
  - stevenwoo 4y ago
    Thanks that makes sense. I reexamined it and missed the tiny text along that graphic that indicates licensed riders doubled during part of that time period and the number of deaths increased 140% during the longer period of the graph so maybe the rate of death didn't change so much as a non varying proportion of motorcyclists deaths per mile, it's hard to tell.
    - mym1990 4y ago
      Its quite a shame because getting around on 2 wheels(bicycle or motorcycle) is a fabulous feeling and way more efficient...but I have not seen any drastic changes in the past 10 years to protect riders.

stevenwoo 4y ago

For whatever reason, motorcyclists' deaths are about up 10x times pedestrian/cyclist deaths over the same time period in the USA according to that graphic accompanying the article. Genuinely curious as non motorcyclist - is there awareness of this or collective outrage among the motorcyclists' community?

mym1990 4y ago
I am not sure to be honest, as I don't ride anymore(I figured 3rd strike will be the one that gets me). There is a quote that seems to ring true to me: "There's two types of riders; those who have crashed, and those who will." Most new riders don't believe it, but the truth is that whether you crash or not is almost never in your control, and being naive of this will just get you killed faster. Unfortunately, death seems to be something that is ever present if you are part of a bigger rider community, a lot of riders know someone close that passed away.
- stevenwoo 4y ago
  Thanks that makes sense. I reexamined it and missed the tiny text along that graphic that indicates licensed riders doubled during part of that time period and the number of deaths increased 140% during the longer period of the graph so maybe the rate of death didn't change so much as a non varying proportion of motorcyclists deaths per mile, it's hard to tell.
  - mym1990 4y ago
    Its quite a shame because getting around on 2 wheels(bicycle or motorcycle) is a fabulous feeling and way more efficient...but I have not seen any drastic changes in the past 10 years to protect riders.