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Evolution may not save us though! I think symbiosis with technology is the key: air conditioning is expensive and energy intensive. However there are devices th

Evolution may not save us though! I think symbiosis with technology is the key: air conditioning is expensive and energy intensive. However there are devices that attach to your arm and can cool you down quickly.

AstralStorm 4y ago
You're trying to beat evaporative cooling... Good luck with that.
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  Evaporative cooling ceases to work if water is almost condensing on your body! I imagine a dry ice pack and associated tech to slow release that coolness to exposed veins would work well.
lm28469 4y ago
"technology" put us here, more of it without a dramatic paradigm change won't do any good. See EVs for example, sold as a solution to global warming when it reality it's just ever so slightly displacing the problem and not actually solving anything besides car manufacturers from bankruptcy
- nine_k 4y ago
  Have you tried to fuel your car with gasoline collected from your rooftop? Electric cars can and are routinely charged from solar panels. Yes, solar panel production consumes a lot of energy; quite some of that energy is electric, and can be provided by solar panels. So yes, solar panels may be energy-positive, not just shifting consumption of fossil fuels to factories.
  - lm28469 4y ago
    In theory it's all clean and nice, in practice half europe is still running on non renewable and the new renewables aren't replacing non-renewable, they're mostly stacking on top thanks the the rebound effect. The sad truth is that we're over consuming energy, and until we consume less we'll just run in the same problems over and over.
    - nine_k 4y ago
      As soon as we consume renewable energy, there's no over-consuming it, Sun has a few hundred million years of runtime left. What we are overconsuming is fossil hydrocarbons, and this has to stop.
      - lm28469 4y ago
        You still have to solve many issues, mining raw material, recycling, storage are just a few of them. As I said, it's all clean and nice on paper, once you take everything into equation we're faaaar of from that green future. I think people simply don't understand the sheer scale of it all and the cost of externalities, from the mine to the landfill. Slapping a "renewable" sticker on it doesn't solve the root issues, it certainly is perpetuating the myth that energy and growth are unlimited though
- quickthrower2 4y ago
  We need a bit if everything. Hedged bets. There is no world authority that can force every country to change unfortunately. The best bet is technology making it in countries interests to move to greener ways of producing power, and at a consumer level saving people money is usually a winner form changing habits.

AstralStorm 4y ago

You're trying to beat evaporative cooling... Good luck with that.

quickthrower2 4y ago
Evaporative cooling ceases to work if water is almost condensing on your body! I imagine a dry ice pack and associated tech to slow release that coolness to exposed veins would work well.

lm28469 4y ago

"technology" put us here, more of it without a dramatic paradigm change won't do any good. See EVs for example, sold as a solution to global warming when it reality it's just ever so slightly displacing the problem and not actually solving anything besides car manufacturers from bankruptcy

nine_k 4y ago
Have you tried to fuel your car with gasoline collected from your rooftop? Electric cars can and are routinely charged from solar panels. Yes, solar panel production consumes a lot of energy; quite some of that energy is electric, and can be provided by solar panels. So yes, solar panels may be energy-positive, not just shifting consumption of fossil fuels to factories.
- lm28469 4y ago
  In theory it's all clean and nice, in practice half europe is still running on non renewable and the new renewables aren't replacing non-renewable, they're mostly stacking on top thanks the the rebound effect. The sad truth is that we're over consuming energy, and until we consume less we'll just run in the same problems over and over.
  - nine_k 4y ago
    As soon as we consume renewable energy, there's no over-consuming it, Sun has a few hundred million years of runtime left. What we are overconsuming is fossil hydrocarbons, and this has to stop.
    - lm28469 4y ago
      You still have to solve many issues, mining raw material, recycling, storage are just a few of them. As I said, it's all clean and nice on paper, once you take everything into equation we're faaaar of from that green future. I think people simply don't understand the sheer scale of it all and the cost of externalities, from the mine to the landfill. Slapping a "renewable" sticker on it doesn't solve the root issues, it certainly is perpetuating the myth that energy and growth are unlimited though
quickthrower2 4y ago
We need a bit if everything. Hedged bets. There is no world authority that can force every country to change unfortunately. The best bet is technology making it in countries interests to move to greener ways of producing power, and at a consumer level saving people money is usually a winner form changing habits.