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"Holocaust survivors in particular could be re-traumatized when they see the symbol, said Shelley Rood Wernick, managing director of the Jewish Federations of N

"Holocaust survivors in particular could be re-traumatized when they see the symbol, said Shelley Rood Wernick, managing director of the Jewish Federations of North America’s Center on Holocaust Survivor Care." How many Holocaust survivors are even left?

ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
When you include second and third generation survivors? Potentially millions.
- TulliusCicero 4y ago
  ...I don't think that's usually what people mean by "Holocaust survivor".
  - ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
    Just because they're not thought about doesn't mean they don't exist. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/15/trauma-second-generation-holocaust-survivors https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/15/trauma-...
    - TulliusCicero 4y ago
      Of course they exist by this definition, but by default when someone describes an "X survivor" they obviously mean a person who actually went through that thing. Nobody says, "I was a cancer survivor" to mean "my grandma survived cancer".
- zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago
  I don't
Tao3300 4y ago
Presumably < 100,000 https://time.com/4392413/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivors-remaining/ https://time.com/4392413/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivors-rem... That was 2016.
honkler 4y ago
moshegramovsky 4y ago
It's not just the immediate survivors who were affected by the Holocaust. A significant portion of the Hasidic Jews in the US are descendants of Holocaust survivors. For example: members of the Satmar dynasty. A significant number of non-Hasidic Jews in the US are descendants of holocaust survivors who immigrated after World War 2. This includes, children of survivors, grandchildren of survivors, and great-grandchildren of survivors. I assure you, the Holocaust remains a very difficult subject for many Jewish families, including mine, and it also affects a lot of Jewish families who weren't directly affected. "Never Shall I Forget" by Elie Wiesel Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, that turned my life into one long night seven times sealed. Never shall I forget that smoke. Never shall I forget the small faces of the children whose bodies I saw transformed into smoke under a silent sky. Never shall I forget those flames that consumed my faith for ever. Never shall I forget the nocturnal silence that deprived me for all eternity of the desire to live. Never shall I forget those moments that murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to ashes. Never shall I forget those things, even were I condemned to live as long as God Himself. Never. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satmar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satmar [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6720013/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6720013/
- rrwo 4y ago
  A significant number of Americans and Europe whose ancestors weren't directly persecuted by nazis, but who fought in WW2 against the nazis and fascists, and they also find the swastika offensive. Also note that the nazis also murdered Romani, Sinti, Poles, Slavs in concentration camps and ghettos. They also murdered and starved the general civillian populations of areas they took over.
  - moshegramovsky 4y ago
    I wrote this in another comment: "...what also happened to the Polish Christians (and other Slavic peoples) under the Germans - which was another attempted genocide by itself."

ThrowawayTestr 4y ago

When you include second and third generation survivors? Potentially millions.

TulliusCicero 4y ago
...I don't think that's usually what people mean by "Holocaust survivor".
- ThrowawayTestr 4y ago
  Just because they're not thought about doesn't mean they don't exist. https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/15/trauma-second-generation-holocaust-survivors https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/mar/15/trauma-...
  - TulliusCicero 4y ago
    Of course they exist by this definition, but by default when someone describes an "X survivor" they obviously mean a person who actually went through that thing. Nobody says, "I was a cancer survivor" to mean "my grandma survived cancer".
zoklet-enjoyer 4y ago
I don't

Tao3300 4y ago

Presumably < 100,000 https://time.com/4392413/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivors-remaining/ https://time.com/4392413/elie-wiesel-holocaust-survivors-rem... That was 2016.

honkler 4y ago

moshegramovsky 4y ago

It's not just the immediate survivors who were affected by the Holocaust. A significant portion of the Hasidic Jews in the US are descendants of Holocaust survivors. For example: members of the Satmar dynasty. A significant number of non-Hasidic Jews in the US are descendants of holocaust survivors who immigrated after World War 2. This includes, children of survivors, grandchildren of survivors, and great-grandchildren of survivors. I assure you, the Holocaust remains a very difficult subject for many Jewish families, including mine, and it also affects a lot of Jewish families who weren't directly affected. "Never Shall I Forget" by Elie Wiesel Never shall I forget that night, the first night in camp, that turned my life into one long night seven times sealed. Never shall I forget that smoke. Never shall I forget the small faces of the children whose bodies I saw transformed into smoke under a silent sky. Never shall I forget those flames that consumed my faith for ever. Never shall I forget the nocturnal silence that deprived me for all eternity of the desire to live. Never shall I forget those moments that murdered my God and my soul and turned my dreams to ashes. Never shall I forget those things, even were I condemned to live as long as God Himself. Never. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satmar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satmar [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6720013/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6720013/

rrwo 4y ago
A significant number of Americans and Europe whose ancestors weren't directly persecuted by nazis, but who fought in WW2 against the nazis and fascists, and they also find the swastika offensive. Also note that the nazis also murdered Romani, Sinti, Poles, Slavs in concentration camps and ghettos. They also murdered and starved the general civillian populations of areas they took over.
- moshegramovsky 4y ago
  I wrote this in another comment: "...what also happened to the Polish Christians (and other Slavic peoples) under the Germans - which was another attempted genocide by itself."