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Some other incubators fund more women and minorities than YC, so this seems like it's only part of the story. A couple questions this leaves in my mind: - wha

by jdp23 15y ago

Some other incubators fund more women and minorities than YC, so this seems like it's only part of the story. A couple questions this leaves in my mind: - what are they doing to broaden the applicant pool? - have they considered that something about the process or their reputation might lead to women and minorities steering away from YC?

pg 15y ago
Probably the biggest things we've done to broaden the applicant pool are Hacker News, Startup School, and all the essays I've written about startups. I don't think there's anything about our process or reputation that directly discourages people of any gender or race. But we do prefer founders who are hackers, which presumably thus causes fewer members of groups that are underrepresented among hackers to apply to YC.
- YoungEnt 15y ago
  It's nothing about your process. As you said on the interview, the women:men ratio is the same in the people accepted, and the people applying.
- kevincjemison 15y ago
  It's definitely a complicated issue with no clear overriding cause. As a minority who did take apart his mothers computer at 13 and compressed the windows partition to install linux (woo hoo slackware) and has gone on to found a startup I think some of Paul's commentary is spot on. Though I was representative of some of the larger stats (single parent home, lower middle income specturm) I was also one of two kids on my block with access to a computer in the home, and my single parent was a teacher who made education a priority. If you looked at the cohort of kids I grew up with you'd find myself and 2 others out of 11 or so that are not either a. dead or b. in jail, or have been in jail. Why is that? I don't know and don't claim to know, but the road to changing it starts very young.
dmix 15y ago
Thats very much a governmental approach to solving the problem. Patch the surface but never deal with the underlying problem.
csomar 15y ago
what are they doing to broaden the applicant pool? And why you want them to do so? I personally want that YC or any other program select applicants based on their skills and abilities and not any other criteria.
- tikhonj 15y ago
  I think broadening the applicant pool here means getting more underrepresented types applying rather than changing how you select them after they've applied. Just because you get additional, different people to apply does not mean you have to relax your admissions criteria; if anything, it's the opposite: you have more to choose from. If this is not what was meant by that phrase, then it's what should have been meant and I stand by my point anyhow.
- rdl 15y ago
  I think everyone wants YC to pick the best candidates (thus making the best startups who make the best products for us to use), but I also want them to not systematically overlook qualified candidates due to external factors. If there's a way to tweak early-childhood education to turn more women into potential startup founders, hackers, etc., that increases the number of startups and hackers available for startups, which is awesome. It would be reasonable for YC to use successful women/minority applicants (Jessica Mah; Leah Culver; I'm sure there are others, plus of course Jessica Livingston's role as a partner) to demonstrate that women can be successful in startups. Other than that, it's really something for parents, K12 educators, etc. to address. Women do seem to be a lot better represented in bio/biotech than in computers/ee, so if over time more startups happen in the bio space, that should help to address the imbalance too.

by jdp23 15y ago

pg 15y ago

Probably the biggest things we've done to broaden the applicant pool are Hacker News, Startup School, and all the essays I've written about startups. I don't think there's anything about our process or reputation that directly discourages people of any gender or race. But we do prefer founders who are hackers, which presumably thus causes fewer members of groups that are underrepresented among hackers to apply to YC.

YoungEnt 15y ago
It's nothing about your process. As you said on the interview, the women:men ratio is the same in the people accepted, and the people applying.
kevincjemison 15y ago
It's definitely a complicated issue with no clear overriding cause. As a minority who did take apart his mothers computer at 13 and compressed the windows partition to install linux (woo hoo slackware) and has gone on to found a startup I think some of Paul's commentary is spot on. Though I was representative of some of the larger stats (single parent home, lower middle income specturm) I was also one of two kids on my block with access to a computer in the home, and my single parent was a teacher who made education a priority. If you looked at the cohort of kids I grew up with you'd find myself and 2 others out of 11 or so that are not either a. dead or b. in jail, or have been in jail. Why is that? I don't know and don't claim to know, but the road to changing it starts very young.

dmix 15y ago

Thats very much a governmental approach to solving the problem. Patch the surface but never deal with the underlying problem.

csomar 15y ago

what are they doing to broaden the applicant pool? And why you want them to do so? I personally want that YC or any other program select applicants based on their skills and abilities and not any other criteria.

tikhonj 15y ago
I think broadening the applicant pool here means getting more underrepresented types applying rather than changing how you select them after they've applied. Just because you get additional, different people to apply does not mean you have to relax your admissions criteria; if anything, it's the opposite: you have more to choose from. If this is not what was meant by that phrase, then it's what should have been meant and I stand by my point anyhow.
rdl 15y ago
I think everyone wants YC to pick the best candidates (thus making the best startups who make the best products for us to use), but I also want them to not systematically overlook qualified candidates due to external factors. If there's a way to tweak early-childhood education to turn more women into potential startup founders, hackers, etc., that increases the number of startups and hackers available for startups, which is awesome. It would be reasonable for YC to use successful women/minority applicants (Jessica Mah; Leah Culver; I'm sure there are others, plus of course Jessica Livingston's role as a partner) to demonstrate that women can be successful in startups. Other than that, it's really something for parents, K12 educators, etc. to address. Women do seem to be a lot better represented in bio/biotech than in computers/ee, so if over time more startups happen in the bio space, that should help to address the imbalance too.