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I have an irrational fear of it because of the days in the late 90s/early 2000s when Windows desktop software would sometimes require booting a Java VM which gu
by user3939382 4y ago
I have an irrational fear of it because of the days in the late 90s/early 2000s when Windows desktop software would sometimes require booting a Java VM which guaranteed two things: the UI would be weird / not native, and the boot time would be super slow. I'm still scarred.
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- the-alchemist 4y agoThat's fair. I remember those damn Java applets that froze the entire computer for a minute while they started. But that was 20-30 years ago, literally. A few things happened: SSDs, and Java startup time. A warm-start Java "Hello World" is 200-300ms. A babashka (bb) "Hello World" is 30-40ms, which is faster than Python3 "Hello World" (40-50ms).
- askonomm 4y agoI'd still say that even today Java desktop apps are much slower, laggier and generally still look worse than their native counterparts. It's just that, yes, hardware is so much better which sort of hides most of the Java problems.
- kaba0 4y agoUglier is relative, but I will give you that neither unthemed Swing or JavaFX are too fine looking. But I would say that e.g. IntelliJ looks quite good and that is a basic theme available without much tweaking, plus it can be very snappy (when jetbrains doesn’t ship it with a decade old JVM with shitty default settings. It is fixed in recent versions).