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I'll just wear myself out if I keep letting myself respond to feelings-based comments like yours with facts, like how NYC is below the national average in crime

by dangus 4y ago

I'll just wear myself out if I keep letting myself respond to feelings-based comments like yours with facts, like how NYC is below the national average in crime safety [1] and well below national average on obesity. [2] I shouldn't exert myself pointing out that the average cost of a vehicle is about $5000 per year [3], which costs a lot more than the unlimited miles you can travel with a $75/month bus/train pass in Chicago. [4] It would probably blow the minds of car-dwellers to find out that it only takes 20 minutes to walk a mile. [5] [1] https://realestate.usnews.com/places/new-york/new-york-city/crime https://realestate.usnews.com/places/new-york/new-york-city/... [2] https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/obesity.page https://www.nyc.gov/site/doh/health/health-topics/obesity.pa... [3] https://www.move.org/average-cost-owning-a-car/ https://www.move.org/average-cost-owning-a-car/ [4] https://www.transitchicago.com/fares/ https://www.transitchicago.com/fares/ [5] https://www.nike.com/a/how-long-does-it-take-to-walk-a-mile https://www.nike.com/a/how-long-does-it-take-to-walk-a-mile

snoot 4y ago
> it only takes 20 minutes to walk a mile Which means you have massive delays between stops, and can’t do much if you don’t have hours available.
- ryan_lane 4y ago
  You know in cities there's trains, buses, and cabs, right? Especially in a city like NYC, essentially everything you need is within a mile. I live in Tokyo right now, and everything I need for daily life is within a quarter of a mile. I can get basically anywhere in the city in 30 minutes.
  - snoot 4y ago
    Awesome, you’ve named the features of the downtown of two of the densest and most expensive cities in the world. You know cities aren’t all like that?
    - ryan_lane 4y ago
      Tokyo doesn't really have a downtown, and what I described works for most of Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto and Sapporo. I think it mostly covers all 5 boroughs of NYC. I lived without a car in SF for 10 years and I think it covers that city as well. A lot of international cities work the same way.

by dangus 4y ago

snoot 4y ago

> it only takes 20 minutes to walk a mile Which means you have massive delays between stops, and can’t do much if you don’t have hours available.

ryan_lane 4y ago
You know in cities there's trains, buses, and cabs, right? Especially in a city like NYC, essentially everything you need is within a mile. I live in Tokyo right now, and everything I need for daily life is within a quarter of a mile. I can get basically anywhere in the city in 30 minutes.
- snoot 4y ago
  Awesome, you’ve named the features of the downtown of two of the densest and most expensive cities in the world. You know cities aren’t all like that?
  - ryan_lane 4y ago
    Tokyo doesn't really have a downtown, and what I described works for most of Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto and Sapporo. I think it mostly covers all 5 boroughs of NYC. I lived without a car in SF for 10 years and I think it covers that city as well. A lot of international cities work the same way.