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(Warning, politics!) I worry more about current world leaders, like Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Xi Jinping. What's Putin going to do when it's clear he's loosing i

(Warning, politics!) I worry more about current world leaders, like Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Xi Jinping. What's Putin going to do when it's clear he's loosing in Ukraine, and popular support within Russia? What's going to happen in North Korea or China when their leaders lose support? Is Trump's tantrum about losing the 2020 election an example of Narcissistic Collapse?

lambic2 4y ago
He protected his ego by believing he didn't actually lose. What did finally cause his ego collapse is people working for him telling him there was no evidence of election fraud...which allegedly caused him to throw plates at the wall in a fit of temper tantrum (https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-threw-his-lunch-against-wall-cassidy-hutchinson-testifies-2022-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-threw-his-lunch...) - a perfect example of narcisstic collapse.
jazzyjackson 4y ago
Gabor Mate speaks to this in an interview with Russel Brand, describing Obama, Clinton, and Trump as extreme narcissists, really anyone who desires public office. On YouTube it's called "Damaged Leaders Rule The World", 90 minutes. Of course Douglas Adams refers to this as well, "To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Also Tyler, the Creator raps about it in the song 911 / Mr Lonely: > They say the loudest in the room is weak > That's what they assume, but I disagree > I say the loudest in the room > Is prolly the loneliest one in the room (That's me) > Attention seeker, public speaker ...
Ancapistani 4y ago
I’m hesitant to engage in this one, but it is interesting to me. Please note: I am not intending to make this a conversation about politics, and will do my best not to respond to any comments about politics. > Is Trump's tantrum about losing the 2020 election an example of Narcissistic Collapse? Given what I know about NPD, Trump’s initial run for the presidency might be an example of lashing out in response to a perceived slight. Trump was vocal in the “Birther” scene during Obama’s presidency. In response to that, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in 2011: https://news.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/obama-ridicules-trump-correspondents-dinner-mocks-birther-crusade-043803862.html https://news.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/obama-ridicules-tru... I’ve heard several people, on both sides of the political aisle, mention this specifically as the direct motivation for Trump to run in 2016. As the race continued, Clinton’s overt condescension of Trump seemed to galvanize him to continue and double down - he returned her mocking with straight-forward insults. Because Clinton was wildly unpopular with a bit over half the country, this went over very well indeed and likely resulted in his election. All in all, I’m fairly confident that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were the direct causes of the Trump presidency - they unwittingly played directly to the part of Donald Trump’s personality that most strongly motivate him.
theGnuMe 4y ago
>Is Trump's tantrum about losing the 2020 election an example of Narcissistic Collapse? Yes.

lambic2 4y ago

He protected his ego by believing he didn't actually lose. What did finally cause his ego collapse is people working for him telling him there was no evidence of election fraud...which allegedly caused him to throw plates at the wall in a fit of temper tantrum (https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-threw-his-lunch-against-wall-cassidy-hutchinson-testifies-2022-6 https://www.businessinsider.com/donald-trump-threw-his-lunch...) - a perfect example of narcisstic collapse.

jazzyjackson 4y ago

Gabor Mate speaks to this in an interview with Russel Brand, describing Obama, Clinton, and Trump as extreme narcissists, really anyone who desires public office. On YouTube it's called "Damaged Leaders Rule The World", 90 minutes. Of course Douglas Adams refers to this as well, "To summarize: it is a well-known fact that those people who must want to rule people are, ipso facto, those least suited to do it." Also Tyler, the Creator raps about it in the song 911 / Mr Lonely: > They say the loudest in the room is weak > That's what they assume, but I disagree > I say the loudest in the room > Is prolly the loneliest one in the room (That's me) > Attention seeker, public speaker ...

Ancapistani 4y ago

I’m hesitant to engage in this one, but it is interesting to me. Please note: I am not intending to make this a conversation about politics, and will do my best not to respond to any comments about politics. > Is Trump's tantrum about losing the 2020 election an example of Narcissistic Collapse? Given what I know about NPD, Trump’s initial run for the presidency might be an example of lashing out in response to a perceived slight. Trump was vocal in the “Birther” scene during Obama’s presidency. In response to that, Obama publicly ridiculed Trump at the White House Correspondents’ Dinner in 2011: https://news.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/obama-ridicules-trump-correspondents-dinner-mocks-birther-crusade-043803862.html https://news.yahoo.com/news/blogs/ticket/obama-ridicules-tru... I’ve heard several people, on both sides of the political aisle, mention this specifically as the direct motivation for Trump to run in 2016. As the race continued, Clinton’s overt condescension of Trump seemed to galvanize him to continue and double down - he returned her mocking with straight-forward insults. Because Clinton was wildly unpopular with a bit over half the country, this went over very well indeed and likely resulted in his election. All in all, I’m fairly confident that Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton were the direct causes of the Trump presidency - they unwittingly played directly to the part of Donald Trump’s personality that most strongly motivate him.

theGnuMe 4y ago

>Is Trump's tantrum about losing the 2020 election an example of Narcissistic Collapse? Yes.