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Expect this everywhere. I called American recently (whose checkin website didn't even work, so why would I think anything more advanced would) and got ten minut

Expect this everywhere. I called American recently (whose checkin website didn't even work, so why would I think anything more advanced would) and got ten minutes of automated nagging to go use their website or app or whatever. Companies hate the idea of helping their customers anymore, they want takers who will jump through whatever hoops and incompetence they have without complaining. And they know people have no choice because they're all doing it. Notice the coincidence of the end of proper customer service with the "abusive behavior will not be tolerated" signs. This is their way of saying, "we know we treat you like shit, but if you dare complain we'll consider it abuse". Personally I hope we can collectively push back on how horrible companies have become, but I expect it will only get worse, and worse still these actions will have all kinds of support from ordinary "useful idiots" who have some ideological reason why shitty customer service is more egalitarian or something

compiskey 4y ago
They’re testing what the market will bear. My prediction is it will get sick of picking up more of the effort for less of reward while growing food and making stuff for an unelected and unaccountable rich who demand through threat of violence we cart around in our heads deference to their grand story, until the public gets sick of it. Scalia suggested the public revolt if they didn’t like the US system. Not that I think that’s what should happen but only 14% of adults have more than a masters in the US while the public believes it’s closer to 40%. My point is I’m not so sure the majority will be so clever when selecting from their options. Elites have cobbled together a new cognitive Ponzi scheme; collecting agency/time investment from the public and not paying out in time for self. Church, god kings; all pretty much the same routine for the masse; deference in the form of constant servitude and constraints on benefits.
hedora 4y ago
I really hope this leads to a skyrocketing number of credit card charge backs. We need a consumer protection law saying that non-responsive monopoly vendors cannot deny future business after successful charge backs. I'm not sure how to structure that to avoid abuse, though.
Macha 4y ago
I have been dealing with my bank recently. They have a hard limit on online transactions. Anything below the limit must be done online, anything above must be done by a branch worker. They really don't want to deal with transactions below the limit, so even if you show up in branch to do the below-limit transaction, they'll just walk you through the web interface at a public computer in the branch. I had to make a couple of above-limit transactions, which meant going into the branch. While there, I left behind some documents that I had not intended to. So I wanted to phone the branch to confirm they had them before returning to pick them up. Upon noticing, I rang their branch phone number printed on my reciept. It redirected me to their central support phone system, despite being a local number. The option to speak to a person was behind a four deep phone tree, with each step playing a minute long message asking me if I knew the types of transactions their website could handle before listing out the tree options.
- simfree 4y ago
  Sounds like you need to switch to a credit union ASAP
  - dumpsterlid 4y ago
    Big banks dont deserve your money, they are awful institutions.
- refurb 4y ago
  This may be a shocker but the banks in Singapore are worse. You can do routine things online but anything signed needs to be in person. They have a number you can text to get to a queue number, but it’s not unusual for all queue numbers to be used up 20 min after the bank opens. Doing anything in person is a half day experience of sitting for a couple hours at the bank. And they are all like this. I yearned for the days of Citibank where I could walk in anytime and the worst was a 30 min wait in line while 4 customers were helped by one teller.

compiskey 4y ago

They’re testing what the market will bear. My prediction is it will get sick of picking up more of the effort for less of reward while growing food and making stuff for an unelected and unaccountable rich who demand through threat of violence we cart around in our heads deference to their grand story, until the public gets sick of it. Scalia suggested the public revolt if they didn’t like the US system. Not that I think that’s what should happen but only 14% of adults have more than a masters in the US while the public believes it’s closer to 40%. My point is I’m not so sure the majority will be so clever when selecting from their options. Elites have cobbled together a new cognitive Ponzi scheme; collecting agency/time investment from the public and not paying out in time for self. Church, god kings; all pretty much the same routine for the masse; deference in the form of constant servitude and constraints on benefits.

hedora 4y ago

I really hope this leads to a skyrocketing number of credit card charge backs. We need a consumer protection law saying that non-responsive monopoly vendors cannot deny future business after successful charge backs. I'm not sure how to structure that to avoid abuse, though.

Macha 4y ago

I have been dealing with my bank recently. They have a hard limit on online transactions. Anything below the limit must be done online, anything above must be done by a branch worker. They really don't want to deal with transactions below the limit, so even if you show up in branch to do the below-limit transaction, they'll just walk you through the web interface at a public computer in the branch. I had to make a couple of above-limit transactions, which meant going into the branch. While there, I left behind some documents that I had not intended to. So I wanted to phone the branch to confirm they had them before returning to pick them up. Upon noticing, I rang their branch phone number printed on my reciept. It redirected me to their central support phone system, despite being a local number. The option to speak to a person was behind a four deep phone tree, with each step playing a minute long message asking me if I knew the types of transactions their website could handle before listing out the tree options.

simfree 4y ago
Sounds like you need to switch to a credit union ASAP
- dumpsterlid 4y ago
  Big banks dont deserve your money, they are awful institutions.
refurb 4y ago
This may be a shocker but the banks in Singapore are worse. You can do routine things online but anything signed needs to be in person. They have a number you can text to get to a queue number, but it’s not unusual for all queue numbers to be used up 20 min after the bank opens. Doing anything in person is a half day experience of sitting for a couple hours at the bank. And they are all like this. I yearned for the days of Citibank where I could walk in anytime and the worst was a 30 min wait in line while 4 customers were helped by one teller.