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> The same thing happened with Libya and Syria, only now it was the other set of talking points - although again, Qaddafi was promoting pan-African unity, an al
by Keysh 4y ago
> The same thing happened with Libya and Syria, only now it was the other set of talking points - although again, Qaddafi was promoting pan-African unity, an alternative currency, independence from Europe and the USA on oil sales, closer ties to Russia and China, etc. Assad backed out of a Saudi-USA-Israeli pipeline deal in 2009 and went for the Russia-Iran pipeline instead (plus lots of electricity integration with Iran), so Obama signed off on the CIA overthrow/regime change directive.
Oh, bollocks. In what universe did the US go to war with Assad's regime? The US tepidly tried arming a few of the (non-fundamentalist) rebel groups once they appeared, but nothing more than that. (Presumably you think the Arab Spring uprisings in Tunisia and Egypt were caused by the CIA, too, for some unfathomable reason.) And how, exactly, has the US profited monetarily from what happened in Libya and Syria?
(Gaddafi was actually getting closer to the US and Europe; in 2004 he gave up his nuclear weapons program in return for better relations with the West. As for "pan-African unity" -- sure, from the guy who invaded Chad to steal land from it. No one took his bombast seriously.)
- photochemsyn 4y agohttps://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-libya/russia-libya-seal-debt-accord-eye-arms-deals-idUSSHC61895920080417 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-libya/russia-libya... (2008) "Russia agreed to cancel $4.5 billion of Libyan debt on Thursday, unlocking big military and civilian export orders in the face of fierce Western competition for the former outcast state’s booming market." https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/world/europe/03iht-03russia.17460465.html https://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/03/world/europe/03iht-03russ... > "Colonel Muammar el-Qaddafi, the leader of Libya, visited Moscow over the weekend for talks on oil and natural gas deals, just two months after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was his guest in Libya. The visit here suggested that Qaddafi, a onetime pariah, is maneuvering to play Russia and the United States against each other for commercial and political favors." There's plenty of similar stories, if you care to look up the historical record. If the House of Saud tried (for whatever unlikely reason) to pull all its oil money out of the US banking system and play similar games with Russia and China, a CIA-run regime change operation would be a real possiblility, right?