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How expensive do you think it would be allowing an entity infamous for intellectual property theft, to have unfettered access to the teleco networks of the co

How expensive do you think it would be allowing an entity infamous for intellectual property theft, to have unfettered access to the teleco networks of the countries that they themselves say are their greatest enemies? Yes, imported Russian nat gas is way cheaper. Until it isn't.

throwaway4good 4y ago
First I don't really think your premise is correct and second we are capable of keeping our networks secure even if a cable or a base station is made by a Chinese company.
- ABeeSea 4y ago
  Why do you think the premise is incorrect?
  - throwaway4good 4y ago
    I worked in tele for a couple of years; the reason Huawei and ZTE got ahead in 5G was that they invested heavily at time when Nokia and Ericsson were focused on cutting cost.
    - ABeeSea 4y ago
      That was only half the premise, the other half was > unfettered access to the teleco networks of the countries that they themselves say are their greatest enemies? Regardless of how they got their tech, that premise is the reason for blocking them.
      - throwaway4good 4y ago
        As for the "unfettered access" stuff; a telco, or at least the one I worked at, doesn't really work like that. We buy products and engineering services from our suppliers but we run our own network, and if we did outsource operations, those engineers would sit on premise and the whole thing would be under our control.
        dilyevsky 4y ago
        > the whole thing would be under our control. Pans to black. “The whole thing was not under their control”. Cue “aways sunny in Philadelphia” theme
        ABeeSea 4y ago
        Your argument doesn’t make any sense from a risk containment standpoint.
    - klipklop 4y ago
      This is not true at all. If anything they had to tighten their belts to compete with the price dumping Huawei and ZTE were engaging in.
- kube-system 4y ago
  > we are capable of keeping our networks secure even if a cable or a base station is made by a Chinese company. Not if war breaks out. If that happens, maintenance and support channels will be weaponized and/or sanctioned.

throwaway4good 4y ago

First I don't really think your premise is correct and second we are capable of keeping our networks secure even if a cable or a base station is made by a Chinese company.

ABeeSea 4y ago
Why do you think the premise is incorrect?
- throwaway4good 4y ago
  I worked in tele for a couple of years; the reason Huawei and ZTE got ahead in 5G was that they invested heavily at time when Nokia and Ericsson were focused on cutting cost.
  - ABeeSea 4y ago
    That was only half the premise, the other half was > unfettered access to the teleco networks of the countries that they themselves say are their greatest enemies? Regardless of how they got their tech, that premise is the reason for blocking them.
    - throwaway4good 4y ago
      As for the "unfettered access" stuff; a telco, or at least the one I worked at, doesn't really work like that. We buy products and engineering services from our suppliers but we run our own network, and if we did outsource operations, those engineers would sit on premise and the whole thing would be under our control.
      - dilyevsky 4y ago
        > the whole thing would be under our control. Pans to black. “The whole thing was not under their control”. Cue “aways sunny in Philadelphia” theme
      - ABeeSea 4y ago
        Your argument doesn’t make any sense from a risk containment standpoint.
  - klipklop 4y ago
    This is not true at all. If anything they had to tighten their belts to compete with the price dumping Huawei and ZTE were engaging in.
kube-system 4y ago
> we are capable of keeping our networks secure even if a cable or a base station is made by a Chinese company. Not if war breaks out. If that happens, maintenance and support channels will be weaponized and/or sanctioned.