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They’ve been running that experiment with great success in the Netherlands since the 1970s. It’s great to see, and even better to experience in your everyday li

They’ve been running that experiment with great success in the Netherlands since the 1970s. It’s great to see, and even better to experience in your everyday life. I love feeling connected to my environment.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago
The Netherlands is not a regular country and cannot be used as a template for any other country in the World, except maybe some flat urban area, like Copenhagen, or the Vatican (which has a few hills more than the Netherlands BTW) p.s. Dutch did not like to hear this, but somebody had to say it.
- Xylakant 4y ago
  I don’t think that Berlin has substantially more mountains in the city than Amsterdam. I live on one of the molehills that pretend to be a mountain and I have 22m of height difference to the river. It’s noticeable but hardly insurmountable.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    > I don’t think that Berlin has substantially more mountains in the city than Amsterdam Berlin, in fact, is not a country. As I've said cannot be used as a template for any other country in the World, **except maybe some flat urban area** Paris is not the Netherlands, you cannot export the Netherlands ways to Paris. Moreover, there are on average 150,000 street accidents in Berlin every year. Last year (2020), 14,782 people were hurt in road accidents in Berlin - the lowest figure in 30 years, according to police data. (thanks COVID I guess...) In Rome, considered the hell on earth of street rage (69 cars every 100 people, negative record in Europe) ~10.500 people were injured in the same period. Same population, 1.4 times more accidents. Perception is very different from reality.
- abyssin 4y ago
  I’m a daily cyclist in Brussels and my city is far from flat.
  - peoplefromibiza 4y ago
    I lived in Brussels, please consider the fact that what's considered "not flat" in Brussels is completely flat in 95% of Europe.
- jokteur 4y ago
  People cycle in the city of Lausanne (Switzerland), which has a 500m height difference between its lowest point and highest point. Of course nobody is doing these 500m every day, but its common to see parents bring their children to school by electric bike, and maybe doing 100m of height elevation.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

The Netherlands is not a regular country and cannot be used as a template for any other country in the World, except maybe some flat urban area, like Copenhagen, or the Vatican (which has a few hills more than the Netherlands BTW) p.s. Dutch did not like to hear this, but somebody had to say it.

Xylakant 4y ago
I don’t think that Berlin has substantially more mountains in the city than Amsterdam. I live on one of the molehills that pretend to be a mountain and I have 22m of height difference to the river. It’s noticeable but hardly insurmountable.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  > I don’t think that Berlin has substantially more mountains in the city than Amsterdam Berlin, in fact, is not a country. As I've said cannot be used as a template for any other country in the World, **except maybe some flat urban area** Paris is not the Netherlands, you cannot export the Netherlands ways to Paris. Moreover, there are on average 150,000 street accidents in Berlin every year. Last year (2020), 14,782 people were hurt in road accidents in Berlin - the lowest figure in 30 years, according to police data. (thanks COVID I guess...) In Rome, considered the hell on earth of street rage (69 cars every 100 people, negative record in Europe) ~10.500 people were injured in the same period. Same population, 1.4 times more accidents. Perception is very different from reality.
abyssin 4y ago
I’m a daily cyclist in Brussels and my city is far from flat.
- peoplefromibiza 4y ago
  I lived in Brussels, please consider the fact that what's considered "not flat" in Brussels is completely flat in 95% of Europe.
jokteur 4y ago
People cycle in the city of Lausanne (Switzerland), which has a 500m height difference between its lowest point and highest point. Of course nobody is doing these 500m every day, but its common to see parents bring their children to school by electric bike, and maybe doing 100m of height elevation.