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Its ugly! A key to Tesla's success is that its cars look like cars, not abominations. Many electric car makers seem to hate cars.
by zac23or 4y ago
Its ugly!
A key to Tesla's success is that its cars look like cars, not abominations. Many electric car makers seem to hate cars.
- toast0 4y agoI think this is ugly and cute at once. Like a first gen Scion xB (although that was boxier). But this is clearly a car to fit a regulatory niche, few will drive this if they have other options, so style isn't really in the budget.
- masklinn 4y ago> few will drive this if they have other options Why not? If you're a city-zen and going to do something in the city too far to go on foot, using an ami is much easier than using a full-size car, unless you have an A-segment car (and even then, the ami is a full meter shorter than your average A-segment, the length of the Ami is the wheelbase of a Picanto or an Aygo). It's not like the 28mph is a big impediment in most city traffic.
- Kukumber 4y agoi think it's cute, it's very small, practical for a city life it's not meant to be luxurious, it's meant to be affordable and it's not meant to "look like a car", it's meant to be useful and practical To quote the article: "In France, anyone from the age of 14 can drive one without a licence. You can also hire an Ami on a short-term basis in Paris. For €0.26-a-minute (with a subscription fee of €9.90 per month) you can whizz around the capital's streets. It's probably nicer - and more hygienic - than taking the Metro or a bus"
- zac23or 4y ago> and it's not meant to "look like a car", it's meant to be useful and practical How many "Ugly electric practical and useful electric cars" sell well?
- Kukumber 4y agoi never said they are "ugly", you said "it is ugly", that's your opinion my opinion is: "it's cute" i don't understand why you change my words, it wasn't to your liking?
- woodruffw 4y agoI like the way this car looks (and I’m not a particular fan of how the Tesla models look). Were I to buy a car, this is close to what I would look for.
- HNDV 4y agoIt's ugly because it was made to be as cheap as possible. For example, the "passenger" side door is the same door as the driver side, so the driver's door opens like a suicide door, while the passenger one opens like a conventional door. All elements of the car were made to be as perfectly symmetrical as possible and interchangeable. The so-called abomination has a hope of driving poorer people from A to B, while your beauty pageant Tesla remains a car for the wealthy. Because for all the talks about environmentalism from Musk, he has never cared about that. He has never cared about bringing cheaper green transportation to the larger public. It's all about wealth.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoCheap EVs aren’t profitable. If you want to make them cheap, supply chains must spin up to drive down costs, not sell lip stick on a pig death traps. This is not Musk specific. Legacy automakers can’t bring cheap EVs to market that compete with Teslas either. They are glorified golf carts because they must be. Cheap out on batteries and motors and your warranty reserves and costs are exorbitant and destroy profitability, so you cheap out on fit and finish (Tesla does, and demand is still…robust) or safety (not great!). Go Google for what the Porsche Taycan battery warranty requires for it to remain in effect, and this is a premium vehicle supposedly. Regarding “it’s all about wealth”, let’s set aside who Musk is for a moment and reflect on a $1B global dc fast charger network (“Superchargers”) and an EV manufacturing flywheel that continues to ramp (approaching 3 million units built and sold pa), together which has convinced major nation states to enact or pull forward their new vehicle combustion vehicle sales bans. Someone can be a pathological liar and greedy and yet have moved the needle. Tesla’s board recognized that he was irreplaceable, and that’s likely true. Obsessive people are motivated but there are costs personality wise. High level, let’s recalibrate Tesla to not be just Elon Musk. Consider that he brought the funding, he ran the ship through the storm, but humble JB Straubel was the CTO and was a significant component in Tesla’s success (wrt battery engineering and manufacturing), along with countless decent, passionate engineers and ancillary roles over two decades. Tesla =! Musk. There is nuance. (Tesla is building their own lithium refinery in Texas to drive down battery costs; point me to an automaker that is doing the same, they can barely source batteries at the scale they need)
- andrepd 4y agoWell, to be fair "hating cars" is the sensible view x) Cars are wasteful, dirty, loud, and unsafe. Unfortunately, in most places in the world the last 80+ years of infrastructure design were made around the personal automobile, to the detriment of everything else: air quality, scarce space in cities, pedestrian safety, etc.
- BarryMilo 4y agoDid we forget the Cybertruck already?
- ZeroGravitas 4y agoCitroen has a Cybertruck version of this too, called the Oli: https://www.electrifying.com/blog/article/the-ami-gets-a-big-brother-oli-points-way-to-cheaper-lighter-electric-family-car-from-citro-n https://www.electrifying.com/blog/article/the-ami-gets-a-big...
- maximus-decimus 4y agoThe Oli makes the Cybertruck look normal.
- tengwar2 4y agoIt's only a research project, unfortunately. I'd be seriously interested in buying one.
- masklinn 4y agoIt’s certainly fun seeing Citroen going back to being absolute weirdoes.
- zac23or 4y agoYou're right. Cybertruck is also an abomination.
- hyperbovine 4y ago*Cars as defined by “car people”. Personally I couldn’t care less if my “car looks like a car.” (I don’t even know what that means.) I want it to get me from A to B with a minimum of financial and environmental expense.
- zac23or 4y agoMost people care a lot.
- nephanth 4y agoSome people are very passionate about it. I don't think most people care, though that's probably a cultural thing
- hyperbovine 4y agoYes, I am sure that most of the car people you know care a lot.
- the_only_law 4y agoMany different auto companies have produced numerous different cars over a very long period of time. Which one is the “official” template of what a car should look like?
- zac23or 4y agoIt is necessary not to look ridiculous.
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- MrBuddyCasino 4y agoThe 2CV or the Beetle were cheap but charming. This one is a hideous yoghurt cup, made to atone for your sins, made by joyless bureaucrats and puritans. The Extinction Rebellion Gretamobile.
- Bayart 4y agoTeslas look bland, if not horrid, for how much they cost, at least compared to the sedans we're used to in Europe.
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- zac23or 4y agoBland is ok. Other EVs: https://www.hotcars.com/ugliest-evs-produced-so-far/ https://www.hotcars.com/ugliest-evs-produced-so-far/ reply
- nephanth 4y agoI think it's cute