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Why did you intentionally omit the house of representatives where the number of seats is tied to population? The Senate's entire purpose is a balance of power b

Why did you intentionally omit the house of representatives where the number of seats is tied to population? The Senate's entire purpose is a balance of power between small states and larger ones where the people are represented in the house. Your post feels ignorant or deceitful.

stevesearer 4y ago
It is also interesting that US senators used to be selected by each state legislature as opposed to by popular election because their original purpose was to represent the state as a sovereign entity as opposed to the people directly.
PopAlongKid 4y ago
>citizens of California, who are woefully underpresented in Congress You don't know that Congress includes the House of Representatives? I did not "intentionally omit" anything. And I also mentioned the electoral college, which you "intentionally omitted".
- tannedNerd 4y ago
  Except you did. You framed it as in totally congress is unbalanced because of the senate. To someone not from the US that distinction isn’t a material one and you used that to make it seem that there is no population balancing mechanism. So while you may not believe you were intentionally dishonest, it comes off that way to everyone else.
  - PopAlongKid 4y ago
    >congress is unbalanced because of the senate Yes, that is exactly correct. Not only can laws only pass with the approval of both houses (they each have veto power over the other), but the Senate has extra privileges such as judicial and cabinet appointment approvals that do not allow direct representation. And stupid rules like the filibuster just amplify the effect. Ironic, isn't it, that while the American revolutionaries did not like taxation with representation, they deliberately created a system which, with the passage of the 16th amendment, enables just that.
    - revlolz 4y ago
      Your view, deceitfully presented, is flawed and obtusly (seemingly purposely) ignores every component of the legislative branch in favor of your narrative. Your view of the filibuster is subjective and your stated irony is just a blatent falsehood crafted to sensationally push your agenda's daft poetic imaging.
- revlolz 4y ago
  I stand by my criticism of your post.

stevesearer 4y ago

It is also interesting that US senators used to be selected by each state legislature as opposed to by popular election because their original purpose was to represent the state as a sovereign entity as opposed to the people directly.

PopAlongKid 4y ago

>citizens of California, who are woefully underpresented in Congress You don't know that Congress includes the House of Representatives? I did not "intentionally omit" anything. And I also mentioned the electoral college, which you "intentionally omitted".

tannedNerd 4y ago
Except you did. You framed it as in totally congress is unbalanced because of the senate. To someone not from the US that distinction isn’t a material one and you used that to make it seem that there is no population balancing mechanism. So while you may not believe you were intentionally dishonest, it comes off that way to everyone else.
- PopAlongKid 4y ago
  >congress is unbalanced because of the senate Yes, that is exactly correct. Not only can laws only pass with the approval of both houses (they each have veto power over the other), but the Senate has extra privileges such as judicial and cabinet appointment approvals that do not allow direct representation. And stupid rules like the filibuster just amplify the effect. Ironic, isn't it, that while the American revolutionaries did not like taxation with representation, they deliberately created a system which, with the passage of the 16th amendment, enables just that.
  - revlolz 4y ago
    Your view, deceitfully presented, is flawed and obtusly (seemingly purposely) ignores every component of the legislative branch in favor of your narrative. Your view of the filibuster is subjective and your stated irony is just a blatent falsehood crafted to sensationally push your agenda's daft poetic imaging.
revlolz 4y ago
I stand by my criticism of your post.