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I'm not sure why there is such a doomer sentiment (mostly from the US community but also some EU) about stepping away from Office 365. There are already existin

by f_devd 4y ago

I'm not sure why there is such a doomer sentiment (mostly from the US community but also some EU) about stepping away from Office 365. There are already existing replacements which do comply with GDPR for all of their service (modulo any vendor lock that I can't think of right now). The ruling is mainly for Gvt and Edu sectors since those handle PII regularly through these services, so the main challenge will be packaging the currently relatively fragmented market in such a way that these sectors can migrate and adopt easily, which if done right is a single-time investment from the EU.

olivermuty 4y ago
Any examples? Finding mail and cloud storage alternatives is fairly easy, but as a business operator having this bundled into good identity management is what makes it hard to replace. OIDC provider support with mail and a secure way to store documents and I would be good. Then slack could be wired in via SAML or apis for account management etc. Right now its just a huge undertaking to replace the convenience of GSuite or O365 :(
- f_devd 4y ago
  Maybe in your case self-hosted/on-premise OnlyOffice is an option[0][1], but as I implied earlier the main issue currently isn't that there aren't alternatives for each individual service but that often a combined package is not there yet. It's very likely that (if this becomes a bigger issue within the EU), the EU itself will provide more convenient options. [0]:https://helpcenter.onlyoffice.com/installation.aspx https://helpcenter.onlyoffice.com/installation.aspx [1]: https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2018/06/how-onlyoffice-enterprise-edition-helps-you-be-gdpr-compliant/ https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2018/06/how-onlyoffice-enter... EDIT: I missed part of your comment for OIDC provider there is Ory[2] (but again not bundled) [2]: https://www.ory.sh/ https://www.ory.sh/
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by f_devd 4y ago

olivermuty 4y ago

Any examples? Finding mail and cloud storage alternatives is fairly easy, but as a business operator having this bundled into good identity management is what makes it hard to replace. OIDC provider support with mail and a secure way to store documents and I would be good. Then slack could be wired in via SAML or apis for account management etc. Right now its just a huge undertaking to replace the convenience of GSuite or O365 :(

f_devd 4y ago
Maybe in your case self-hosted/on-premise OnlyOffice is an option[0][1], but as I implied earlier the main issue currently isn't that there aren't alternatives for each individual service but that often a combined package is not there yet. It's very likely that (if this becomes a bigger issue within the EU), the EU itself will provide more convenient options. [0]:https://helpcenter.onlyoffice.com/installation.aspx https://helpcenter.onlyoffice.com/installation.aspx [1]: https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2018/06/how-onlyoffice-enterprise-edition-helps-you-be-gdpr-compliant/ https://www.onlyoffice.com/blog/2018/06/how-onlyoffice-enter... EDIT: I missed part of your comment for OIDC provider there is Ory[2] (but again not bundled) [2]: https://www.ory.sh/ https://www.ory.sh/

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