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> And ei is pronounced eeeee in English No it's not. English spelling is irregular enough that I'm sure something is pronounced that way, but all the examples

by a1369209993 4y ago

> And ei is pronounced eeeee in English No it's not. English spelling is irregular enough that I'm sure something is pronounced that way, but all the examples I can think of are either like "d(ay)" ("dei", "eight", "weigh", "veil"), like "b(e i)t" ("reiterate", "deity", "being", "weird", "deceit"), like "(I)" ("either", "neither", "height"), like "p(i)n" ("foreign", "sovereign"), or like "wh(e)re" ("their", "heir"). Edit: "stein"/"skein" maybe? I'm not sure if those should be like "st(ee)r" or "st(ai)n". Edit: "seize", so there is in fact something that's pronounced that way. > Because ie is pronounced aye in English Neither is that: like "b(ee)": "wield", "thief", like "wh(y e)lk": "science", like "s(ee e)lk": "sapient", "salient", "orient", "sierra", "siesta". Actually, I can't think of any cases where "ie" is pronounced like "aye"(/"d(ay)"), either.

WalterBright 4y ago
> I can't think of any cases Just going through the alphabet: die, lie, pie, tie, vie science, cried, denied, diet, quiet, electrified, fried, justified, qualified, relied, satisfied, society, terrified, variety
- a1369209993 4y ago
  > die, lie, pie, tie, vie Those are all pronounced like "dye", not "day"/"aye". > science, diet, quiet, ... That has a "eh" (like "bet") between the "I" and the "n". > cried, denied, ... Again, that's "dye", not "day"/"aye". (Also I wasn't counting contractions of words ending in "-y" + a suffix, since that seemed clearly unrelated to the German loanword process, but that's more of YMMV thing.) Edit: wait, you were pronouncing "aye" like "I", weren't you? I assumed not since it makes more sense to use, well, "I" for that. Or even "eye". Bloody accents, and bloody six monophthongs and two offglides packed into five(-ish) letters. Although that doesn't cover "ee", and "science", "diet", "quiet", etc still aren't examples (the "I" is the pronunciation only of "i", with "e" producing a subsequent "t(e)ch" sound.
  - WalterBright 4y ago
    aye is pronounced as long i, as in "aye aye sir".
    - a1369209993 4y ago
      So like "I"/"d(ye)", yeah. I steadfastly blame English orthography.

WalterBright 4y ago

> I can't think of any cases Just going through the alphabet: die, lie, pie, tie, vie science, cried, denied, diet, quiet, electrified, fried, justified, qualified, relied, satisfied, society, terrified, variety

a1369209993 4y ago
> die, lie, pie, tie, vie Those are all pronounced like "dye", not "day"/"aye". > science, diet, quiet, ... That has a "eh" (like "bet") between the "I" and the "n". > cried, denied, ... Again, that's "dye", not "day"/"aye". (Also I wasn't counting contractions of words ending in "-y" + a suffix, since that seemed clearly unrelated to the German loanword process, but that's more of YMMV thing.) Edit: wait, you were pronouncing "aye" like "I", weren't you? I assumed not since it makes more sense to use, well, "I" for that. Or even "eye". Bloody accents, and bloody six monophthongs and two offglides packed into five(-ish) letters. Although that doesn't cover "ee", and "science", "diet", "quiet", etc still aren't examples (the "I" is the pronunciation only of "i", with "e" producing a subsequent "t(e)ch" sound.
- WalterBright 4y ago
  aye is pronounced as long i, as in "aye aye sir".
  - a1369209993 4y ago
    So like "I"/"d(ye)", yeah. I steadfastly blame English orthography.