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How are Christianity or Islam more egalitarian? Don't their elites have way more power to define what the bottom feeders can do or say? How is giving ppl less r

How are Christianity or Islam more egalitarian? Don't their elites have way more power to define what the bottom feeders can do or say? How is giving ppl less right more egalitarian? What kind of backward logic are you talking about?

AnimalMuppet 4y ago
They're more egalitarian because there's a authority that is written. I can use the Bible or the Koran to judge the minister or the organization. I don't know if this is done in Islam, but it is in at least some strains of Christianity.
- gloryjulio 4y ago
  I am not talking about the book. I am talking about in practice. I am not even getting the nitty gitty details of things like women's rights. I am only asking one question. Has there been a time in history where there are really no elites group in the religious groups and everyone is equal? When did that happen? It's such a hypocrisy that all the religions have a good idea that we should have a god above men so that we don't worship human as god, but in the end it never translated to the practice isn't it?
rayiner 4y ago
They’re more egalitarian because their vision of a good life (working hard, getting married, raising kids, and following the rules) is attainable for nearly anyone. Even the elites must abide by that definition at least publicly. In modern secular society, elites use their power to define a vision of a good life that reflects their own life, but is unattainable for the average person: living comfortably in a big, interesting city, having an interesting or impactful or glamorous professional job, being a famous performer or fame-adjacent, etc.
- gloryjulio 4y ago
  > In modern secular society How about change it to forever? Has there ever been a time where everyone is equal? I have NEVER seen that happen in practice, just like the communists' so called 'equality'. Let's put it in this way, I have never seen 'All animals are equal'. I have only seen 'but some animals are more equal than others'. You should read Animal Farm.

AnimalMuppet 4y ago

They're more egalitarian because there's a authority that is written. I can use the Bible or the Koran to judge the minister or the organization. I don't know if this is done in Islam, but it is in at least some strains of Christianity.

gloryjulio 4y ago
I am not talking about the book. I am talking about in practice. I am not even getting the nitty gitty details of things like women's rights. I am only asking one question. Has there been a time in history where there are really no elites group in the religious groups and everyone is equal? When did that happen? It's such a hypocrisy that all the religions have a good idea that we should have a god above men so that we don't worship human as god, but in the end it never translated to the practice isn't it?

rayiner 4y ago

They’re more egalitarian because their vision of a good life (working hard, getting married, raising kids, and following the rules) is attainable for nearly anyone. Even the elites must abide by that definition at least publicly. In modern secular society, elites use their power to define a vision of a good life that reflects their own life, but is unattainable for the average person: living comfortably in a big, interesting city, having an interesting or impactful or glamorous professional job, being a famous performer or fame-adjacent, etc.

gloryjulio 4y ago
> In modern secular society How about change it to forever? Has there ever been a time where everyone is equal? I have NEVER seen that happen in practice, just like the communists' so called 'equality'. Let's put it in this way, I have never seen 'All animals are equal'. I have only seen 'but some animals are more equal than others'. You should read Animal Farm.