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> And if you want data, look no further than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_United_States_incarceration_rate_with_other_countries#Comparison_to_OEC

> And if you want data, look no further than https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_United_States_incarceration_rate_with_other_countries#Comparison_to_OECD_countries https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_United_States_in... for why your take is absolutely bonkers. This doesn't refute the OP's claims, and I think could support them. OP is saying (to paraphrase) that Japan's tough on crime stance is a deterrent, and so there is less crime, and so fewer people incarcerated. Also, I don't think a reasonable person is worried about getting arrested or shot going to the US. I'm sure I might be possible to make it happen, but as a Canadian, I have never been worried about either of those things going to the US.

jeromegv 4y ago
You might want to redefine what a reasonable person is. There are tons of Canadians afraid of the police but it’s very likely they don’t look physically like you. You have to get out of your bubble to find them.
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diob 4y ago
I met multiple individuals on my last trip to Australia who commented on how they felt extremely unsafe in the USA (hearing gunshots at night, seeing shootings on the news). Some were native Australians, others were from places abroad, such as Japan.
- version_five 4y ago
  Have you been to the US? Do you feel that way? Definitely the news tries to frightened everyone into watching more. I don't think that's too reflective of reality.
  - ckw 4y ago
    The intentional homicide rate in the US is 7 times that of Australia (6.3/100k population vs 0.9/100k), and 21 times that of Japan (0.3/100k). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intenti...
  - diob 4y ago
    I'm a native born and raised in the US, so I'm used to it for the most part. It wasn't till I visited other countries that I realized how strange it is that we are comfortable around it. I feel much safer on my visits to Australia, for a variety of reasons. I remember last month landing in LAX and immediately noting how much more "intimidating" the police look here. It's so military / macho, centered around getting the bad guys versus helping folks. Police in Australia probably aren't saints, but they look more like helpers than anything else (yellow vests, etc.). Also, I'm never afraid to walk around random streets, alleys, etc. there. It's just. . . different. Of course, Tokyo is on a whole other level beyond that. But the point is, I don't have to worry about mass shootings or gun violence in those countries, whereas here I might just be going to Walmart and end up dead. Or I could be at home, and the police decide to do a wellness check on me. Feels like I'm basically playing a roulette game. Odds are low, but never zero, and they seem to be getting worse and worse. https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-s...

jeromegv 4y ago

You might want to redefine what a reasonable person is. There are tons of Canadians afraid of the police but it’s very likely they don’t look physically like you. You have to get out of your bubble to find them.

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diob 4y ago

I met multiple individuals on my last trip to Australia who commented on how they felt extremely unsafe in the USA (hearing gunshots at night, seeing shootings on the news). Some were native Australians, others were from places abroad, such as Japan.

version_five 4y ago
Have you been to the US? Do you feel that way? Definitely the news tries to frightened everyone into watching more. I don't think that's too reflective of reality.
- ckw 4y ago
  The intentional homicide rate in the US is 7 times that of Australia (6.3/100k population vs 0.9/100k), and 21 times that of Japan (0.3/100k). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intenti...
- diob 4y ago
  I'm a native born and raised in the US, so I'm used to it for the most part. It wasn't till I visited other countries that I realized how strange it is that we are comfortable around it. I feel much safer on my visits to Australia, for a variety of reasons. I remember last month landing in LAX and immediately noting how much more "intimidating" the police look here. It's so military / macho, centered around getting the bad guys versus helping folks. Police in Australia probably aren't saints, but they look more like helpers than anything else (yellow vests, etc.). Also, I'm never afraid to walk around random streets, alleys, etc. there. It's just. . . different. Of course, Tokyo is on a whole other level beyond that. But the point is, I don't have to worry about mass shootings or gun violence in those countries, whereas here I might just be going to Walmart and end up dead. Or I could be at home, and the police decide to do a wellness check on me. Feels like I'm basically playing a roulette game. Odds are low, but never zero, and they seem to be getting worse and worse. https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-states-outlier https://www.healthdata.org/acting-data/gun-violence-united-s...