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Why do I want AD or Microsoft 365?

by dangus 4y ago

philwelch 4y ago
You personally? No idea. You probably don't. But many (most?) businesses use AD and Office and aren't particularly interested in migrating to alternative solutions.
- gumby 4y ago
  Yes, Microsoft focuses on the customer (corporate IT), not the user. This is how the iphone was able to nuke windows phones which were designed to meet the needs of IT
- dangus 4y ago
  I mainly work in startups. None of them in recent memory have bothered with AD or Office. Okta and Google Workspaces take their place. Those MS products have an “IBM mainframe” problem. New businesses won’t choose them. That’s why I say “why do I want them?” If I was starting a new business I’d have no reason to use them.
toomuchtodo 4y ago
O365 = teams, docs, outlook, etc. workspace tools AD = identity, access, privileging, SSO
- dangus 4y ago
  I know what they are. No company I’ve worked for recently used them. In my mind they’re legacy business products. Sure, most businesses use them, but I don’t necessarily believe that is a forever thing. At one point most businesses had mainframes.
  - toomuchtodo 4y ago
    Refuse reality at your own peril. These tools are actively used at scale across most enterprises, and likely will be for the majority of your career. More than 95 percent of Fortune 500 companies use Azure/O365.
    - dangus 4y ago
      How many Fortune 500 companies were founded in the SaaS era? I'm going to guess that the 5% that don't use Azure/Office 365 represent newer entrants to the Fortune 500. 71% of Fortune 500 companies use mainframes [3], and yet they are considered a dead technology with essentially no future. Do you know anyone or anyone who knows anyone who learned how to develop on mainframes in college in the current millennium? It sure wasn't part of my CS curriculum! Small businesses represent almost half of US economic activity [1] and represent 99.7% of firms with paid employees [2] [1] https://advocacy.sba.gov/2019/01/30/small-businesses-generate-44-percent-of-u-s-economic-activity/ https://advocacy.sba.gov/2019/01/30/small-businesses-generat... [2] https://cdn.advocacy.sba.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/06095731/Small-Business-FAQ-Revised-December-2021.pdf https://cdn.advocacy.sba.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/0609... [3] https://www.precisely.com/blog/mainframe/9-mainframe-statistics https://www.precisely.com/blog/mainframe/9-mainframe-statist...

Why do I want AD or Microsoft 365?

by dangus 4y ago

Why do I want AD or Microsoft 365?

You personally? No idea. You probably don't. But many (most?) businesses use AD and Office and aren't particularly interested in migrating to alternative solutions.

gumby 4y ago
Yes, Microsoft focuses on the customer (corporate IT), not the user. This is how the iphone was able to nuke windows phones which were designed to meet the needs of IT
dangus 4y ago
I mainly work in startups. None of them in recent memory have bothered with AD or Office. Okta and Google Workspaces take their place. Those MS products have an “IBM mainframe” problem. New businesses won’t choose them. That’s why I say “why do I want them?” If I was starting a new business I’d have no reason to use them.

toomuchtodo 4y ago

O365 = teams, docs, outlook, etc. workspace tools AD = identity, access, privileging, SSO

dangus 4y ago
I know what they are. No company I’ve worked for recently used them. In my mind they’re legacy business products. Sure, most businesses use them, but I don’t necessarily believe that is a forever thing. At one point most businesses had mainframes.
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
  Refuse reality at your own peril. These tools are actively used at scale across most enterprises, and likely will be for the majority of your career. More than 95 percent of Fortune 500 companies use Azure/O365.
  - dangus 4y ago
    How many Fortune 500 companies were founded in the SaaS era? I'm going to guess that the 5% that don't use Azure/Office 365 represent newer entrants to the Fortune 500. 71% of Fortune 500 companies use mainframes [3], and yet they are considered a dead technology with essentially no future. Do you know anyone or anyone who knows anyone who learned how to develop on mainframes in college in the current millennium? It sure wasn't part of my CS curriculum! Small businesses represent almost half of US economic activity [1] and represent 99.7% of firms with paid employees [2] [1] https://advocacy.sba.gov/2019/01/30/small-businesses-generate-44-percent-of-u-s-economic-activity/ https://advocacy.sba.gov/2019/01/30/small-businesses-generat... [2] https://cdn.advocacy.sba.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/06095731/Small-Business-FAQ-Revised-December-2021.pdf https://cdn.advocacy.sba.gov/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/0609... [3] https://www.precisely.com/blog/mainframe/9-mainframe-statistics https://www.precisely.com/blog/mainframe/9-mainframe-statist...