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Anybody know what the difference is between this and Lima? It already offers a Docker VM template that with nerdctl is a drop-in replacement for Docker Desktop.

Anybody know what the difference is between this and Lima? It already offers a Docker VM template that with nerdctl is a drop-in replacement for Docker Desktop. There's also Colima which again seems to be the same as Lima which it's based on.

woleium 4y ago
The cynical response would be that they all contribute to a different person's promotion document (promodoc in Amazon parlance)
chucky_z 4y ago
Looks like this is for a consistent workflow for developers where managing a VM or learning nerdctl is too much. I say this as truthful and neither sarcastically or maliciously.
mdaniel 4y ago
Offhand, the biggest difference I'm aware of is the "--platform" argument to "finch run"; with colima (and presumably lima under it) one must specify that at vm creation time not per container $ ./_output/bin/finch run --platform amd64 --entrypoint=/usr/bin/env redis:7-alpine uname -m x86_64 $ ./_output/bin/finch run --platform arm64 --entrypoint=/usr/bin/env redis:7-alpine uname -m aarch64 $ uname -m x86_64 $ ./_output/bin/finch images REPOSITORY TAG IMAGE ID CREATED PLATFORM SIZE BLOB SIZE redis 7-alpine 2700d5097763 31 seconds ago linux/amd64 30.8 MiB 11.3 MiB redis 7-alpine 2700d5097763 31 seconds ago linux/arm64/v8 30.5 MiB 11.3 MiB
- notpushkin 4y ago
  Multiarch works fine for me with colima and Docker CLI: $ limactl shell colima uname -a Linux colima 5.15.68-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:29:31 +0000 aarch64 Linux $ docker run --rm --platform=linux/arm64 busybox uname -a Linux d9daf296b930 5.15.68-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:29:31 +0000 aarch64 GNU/Linux $ docker run --rm --platform=linux/amd64 busybox uname -a Linux 34805057ef02 5.15.68-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:29:31 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux Haven't tried with containerd/nerdctl but I think it should work just fine too.
Yeroc 4y ago
The article notes that Finch is simply curating and/or wrapping Lima etc...
lioeters 4y ago
It's an abstraction layer above Lima. Looks like they're especially working on ease of use on macOS as the only supported platform for now. > Finch is our response to the complexity of curating and assembling an open source container development tool for macOS initially, followed by Windows and Linux in the future. > We are curating the components, depending directly on Lima and nerdctl, and packaging them together with their dependencies into a simple installer for macOS. Finch, via its macOS-native client, acts as a passthrough to nerdctl which is running in a Lima-managed virtual machine. > All of the moving parts are abstracted away behind the simple and easy-to-use Finch client. Finch manages and installs all required open source components and their dependencies, removing any need for you to manage dependency updates and fixes.

woleium 4y ago

The cynical response would be that they all contribute to a different person's promotion document (promodoc in Amazon parlance)

chucky_z 4y ago

Looks like this is for a consistent workflow for developers where managing a VM or learning nerdctl is too much. I say this as truthful and neither sarcastically or maliciously.

mdaniel 4y ago

Offhand, the biggest difference I'm aware of is the "--platform" argument to "finch run"; with colima (and presumably lima under it) one must specify that at vm creation time not per container $ ./_output/bin/finch run --platform amd64 --entrypoint=/usr/bin/env redis:7-alpine uname -m x86_64 $ ./_output/bin/finch run --platform arm64 --entrypoint=/usr/bin/env redis:7-alpine uname -m aarch64 $ uname -m x86_64 $ ./_output/bin/finch images REPOSITORY TAG IMAGE ID CREATED PLATFORM SIZE BLOB SIZE redis 7-alpine 2700d5097763 31 seconds ago linux/amd64 30.8 MiB 11.3 MiB redis 7-alpine 2700d5097763 31 seconds ago linux/arm64/v8 30.5 MiB 11.3 MiB

notpushkin 4y ago
Multiarch works fine for me with colima and Docker CLI: $ limactl shell colima uname -a Linux colima 5.15.68-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:29:31 +0000 aarch64 Linux $ docker run --rm --platform=linux/arm64 busybox uname -a Linux d9daf296b930 5.15.68-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:29:31 +0000 aarch64 GNU/Linux $ docker run --rm --platform=linux/amd64 busybox uname -a Linux 34805057ef02 5.15.68-0-virt #1-Alpine SMP Fri, 16 Sep 2022 06:29:31 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux Haven't tried with containerd/nerdctl but I think it should work just fine too.

Yeroc 4y ago

The article notes that Finch is simply curating and/or wrapping Lima etc...

lioeters 4y ago

It's an abstraction layer above Lima. Looks like they're especially working on ease of use on macOS as the only supported platform for now. > Finch is our response to the complexity of curating and assembling an open source container development tool for macOS initially, followed by Windows and Linux in the future. > We are curating the components, depending directly on Lima and nerdctl, and packaging them together with their dependencies into a simple installer for macOS. Finch, via its macOS-native client, acts as a passthrough to nerdctl which is running in a Lima-managed virtual machine. > All of the moving parts are abstracted away behind the simple and easy-to-use Finch client. Finch manages and installs all required open source components and their dependencies, removing any need for you to manage dependency updates and fixes.