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People saying "shame on you for not being multi-region" are missing the point: This is a German company with German customers subject to German data residency l
by jakear 4y ago
People saying "shame on you for not being multi-region" are missing the point: This is a German company with German customers subject to German data residency laws. For them to store German data in a region besides Germany requires getting informed consent from the "data subject", who must be "pre-informed about the potential risks involved in cross-border data transfer". [1] This is why Azure has a dedicated German partition, just as it has a dedicated Chinese partition.
Now, they could go the GDPR/Cookies route and prompt absolutely every user on pageload, but doing so would annihilate the purpose of the law into monotonous smithereens, just as it did with Cookies. Good on them for defaulting to the "more secure" mode, but yes this is a potential consequence.
Happy to hear from any German amigos present if I've got something wrong. (But watch out... you might be putting HN at risk - their servers aren't (likely) in Germany!)
[1]: https://incountry.com/blog/which-german-data-privacy-laws-you-need-to-comply-with/ https://incountry.com/blog/which-german-data-privacy-laws-yo...
- pclmulqdq 4y agoTime to sign up for AWS or GCP, then. If you're using kubernetes anyway, you'll be fine with the switch.
- scarface74 4y agoSays someone who has never done a large migration of any type…
- foobiekr 4y agoYou should be good to go except for debugging accounts billing monitoring habits documentation security evaluation …
- dilyevsky 4y agoI’ve had capacity issues before with both gcp and aws in smaller regions so not a panacea
- dehrmann 4y agoThis is a good point, but it's a reminder that a lot of these privacy laws are impractical to deal with. When they're universal, it's one thing, but if you're a medium-sized country trying to flex your legislative might, you're going to make the experience worse for your citizens and businesses.
- solatic 4y agoNo reason why Azure can't run multiple "regions" within Germany proper. Their current region is in Frankfurt; no reason why they couldn't launch regions in Munich or Hamburg as well. Then German companies could go multi-region while staying fully compliant with German data sovereignty laws.
- dh2022 4y agoThere are already two Azure regions in Germany: Germany North and Germany West Central.
- kthejoker2 4y agoReally? "No reason"? You can't think of one rea$on?
- mikerg87 4y agoAlso note that the German Azure is in transition - I am not 100% sure the new version of Azure unique to Germany is set up just yet - held by a specific data trustee is ready... https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/azure/germany/germany-welcome https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/previous-versions/azure/ge...