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Amazon developing software to replace recruiters

21 points by zeroonetwothree 4y ago

ss108 4y ago
Do they have recruiters recruiting engineers to help build it?
bediger4000 4y ago
That would just be a slightly less obnoxious email spam bot.
andrewfromx 4y ago
"Last week, Amazon extended buyout offers to hundreds of its recruiters as part of what is expected to be a months-long cycle of layoffs." The article implies this is because they now have some AI that can scrape linkedin, reach out to potential talent, and do everything the recruiters were doing. i.e. it wasn't a warehouse amazon job that was automated away, but a white collar desk job.
- version_five 4y ago
  > it wasn't a warehouse amazon job that was automated away, but a white collar desk This has generally proven true. The hardest jobs to automate require hand eye coordination and the ability to grasp and pick up arbitrarily shaped and positioned objects. Rote data manipulation, organizing, or scheduling tasks are most easily automated (or pushed to the end user) using modern tech. The classic example is that uber automated taxi dispatching, not driving.
johnyjohn19990 4y ago
Nice information. Thanks for sharing.
mrtweetyhack 4y ago
Imnimo 4y ago
"Replace recruiters" seems to be overselling it: "The AAE technology removes one key role that some recruiters serve at Amazon, which is evaluating job applicants and choosing which should move on to job interviews. The program uses the performance reviews of current employees, along with information about their resumes and any online job assessments they completed during their hiring process, to evaluate current job applicants for similar roles."
2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago
Shouldn't be hard. Their strategy seems to be using recruiters with weird names to spam everyone an introduction followed by an online first round coding challenge.
- mickelsen 4y ago
  We should game the crap out of them.
ogou 4y ago
This trend is already in motion. I have been interviewing in Berlin for the past 2 months and most are using automated assessment now. The initial video interviews (if any) are 15 minutes or less with very young recruiters who have no idea what they are interviewing about. They all funnel into either Metaview video recordings or Test Gorilla. I'm not even talking about the tech assessments. Personality assessments are done on Test Gorilla and other services. Assessment links are the new Calendly links. Later video interviews usually involve people looking off-screen at a script or website. They also try to circumvent negotiations with these things. "Your offer will be based on our grading system from these test results so no desired pay range is required." These are modern startups doing this, not the giant megacorps. This most recent job search has been really impersonal and lame. Things have gotten much worse than just 5 years ago. I've been in the industry about 15 years now.
good_boy 4y ago
if they use hire fast - fire fast approach they actually don't need a good pre-filter (recruiter). Amazon IT is more like warehouse, so this is their way of doing it. Good pay is the main motivation factor. I was approached by recruiter and money was his main argument. He didn't know his own fate back then... PS: Facebook had the best recruiting process. They invested a lot of personal time in it.
rkowal 4y ago
Thanks for sharing. This is a terrible candidate experience the way they're doing this.

ss108 4y ago

Do they have recruiters recruiting engineers to help build it?

bediger4000 4y ago

That would just be a slightly less obnoxious email spam bot.

andrewfromx 4y ago

"Last week, Amazon extended buyout offers to hundreds of its recruiters as part of what is expected to be a months-long cycle of layoffs." The article implies this is because they now have some AI that can scrape linkedin, reach out to potential talent, and do everything the recruiters were doing. i.e. it wasn't a warehouse amazon job that was automated away, but a white collar desk job.

version_five 4y ago
> it wasn't a warehouse amazon job that was automated away, but a white collar desk This has generally proven true. The hardest jobs to automate require hand eye coordination and the ability to grasp and pick up arbitrarily shaped and positioned objects. Rote data manipulation, organizing, or scheduling tasks are most easily automated (or pushed to the end user) using modern tech. The classic example is that uber automated taxi dispatching, not driving.

johnyjohn19990 4y ago

Nice information. Thanks for sharing.

mrtweetyhack 4y ago

Imnimo 4y ago

"Replace recruiters" seems to be overselling it: "The AAE technology removes one key role that some recruiters serve at Amazon, which is evaluating job applicants and choosing which should move on to job interviews. The program uses the performance reviews of current employees, along with information about their resumes and any online job assessments they completed during their hiring process, to evaluate current job applicants for similar roles."

2OEH8eoCRo0 4y ago

Shouldn't be hard. Their strategy seems to be using recruiters with weird names to spam everyone an introduction followed by an online first round coding challenge.

mickelsen 4y ago
We should game the crap out of them.

ogou 4y ago

This trend is already in motion. I have been interviewing in Berlin for the past 2 months and most are using automated assessment now. The initial video interviews (if any) are 15 minutes or less with very young recruiters who have no idea what they are interviewing about. They all funnel into either Metaview video recordings or Test Gorilla. I'm not even talking about the tech assessments. Personality assessments are done on Test Gorilla and other services. Assessment links are the new Calendly links. Later video interviews usually involve people looking off-screen at a script or website. They also try to circumvent negotiations with these things. "Your offer will be based on our grading system from these test results so no desired pay range is required." These are modern startups doing this, not the giant megacorps. This most recent job search has been really impersonal and lame. Things have gotten much worse than just 5 years ago. I've been in the industry about 15 years now.

good_boy 4y ago

if they use hire fast - fire fast approach they actually don't need a good pre-filter (recruiter). Amazon IT is more like warehouse, so this is their way of doing it. Good pay is the main motivation factor. I was approached by recruiter and money was his main argument. He didn't know his own fate back then... PS: Facebook had the best recruiting process. They invested a lot of personal time in it.

rkowal 4y ago

Thanks for sharing. This is a terrible candidate experience the way they're doing this.