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Yes it’s weird that you have to ask them for instances which some actual physical person looks at your request, thinks about it and says yes or no to. Instead
by andrewstuart 4y ago
Yes it’s weird that you have to ask them for instances which some actual physical person looks at your request, thinks about it and says yes or no to.
Instead of providing you with a list of the resources they do have, you have to play this weird game where you ask for specific instances in specific regions and then within several hours someone emails back to say yes or no.
If it’s no, you have to guess again where you might get the instance you want and email them again and ask.
I envisage going to an old shop, and asking the shopkeep for a compute instance in a region. He hobbles out the back, and after a long delay comes back and says “nope, don’t have no more of them, anything else you might want?”.
It’s surprising this how it works. Not the auto scaling cloud computing used to bring to mind.
- gtirloni 4y agoIs this a joke comment?
- andrewstuart 4y agoNo, this is my actual experience using azure.
- gtirloni 4y agoI can go on Azure right now and create an instance and nobody will check anything manually and email me back something. Maybe you're confusing Azure with some other small town colocation provider.
- andrewstuart 4y agoNope, I went through this process exchanging more than 30 emails trying to get the instances I wanted.
- tsimionescu 4y agoIf you want 1 instance, you're right. If you want 10 - 20 instances of one type in a region, the other poster's experience matches my own: you have to open a support request to ask for a quota increase, and that is not an automated process.
- wstuartcl 4y ago"an instance" lol
- deathanatos 4y agoAccounts have instance count quotas; you can get them raised, but it is a support ticket to do so. And sometimes, that is hard. I've had Azure support not able to understand what quota they need to raise / what quota is being requested. I had to at least link them to their own documentation on it… (partly the confusion is that quota support tickets allow selecting the quota as a piece of metadata on the ticket, but only for some quotas, and of course, mine was for one of the ones not listed. Why they don't just list all of them is anyone's guess.)
- selckin 4y agono, they have very low quotas by default, and you have to request increases through the portal, which then get rejected and you click the button to contact support/email and then you sometimes have to negotiate with them you have to do this for every single instance type they have, can't even experiment or test other instance types cause its too much trouble to get quota
- gtirloni 4y agoThe comment I replied to was not talking about changing quotas but actually creating instances. > Yes it’s weird that you have to ask them for instances which some actual physical person looks at your request, thinks about it and says yes or no to.
- selckin 4y agowell can't create an instance without having quota available and low quota is low, like 10 cpu, so start a 2 node k8s cluster with 8cpu each? nope, go request quota increase
- andrewstuart 4y agoIn the future it will be possible to use computers to figure out what’s available and automatically give it to customers. 21st century man…. it’s coming.
- salawat 4y agoBut who will determine when more computers are needed to figure out what's available to give to more customers because there's been a spike in demand? Computers don't fix everything. They just allow you to f*ck up bigger, harder, and faster, usually in the most banal way imaginable.
- oneplane 4y agoNo, Microsoft still isn't up to the 'use what you want, pay for your usage' level that other companies tend to be. They even still mix "licensing" with "usage" so you have to pay for something to then be allowed to pay for using it...
- kulahan 4y agoI briefly worked on an Azure team, and what I remember hearing (a few years ago) was that they were building out data warehouses as fast as they can, but they simply cannot keep up with demand. A good problem to have, I thought, but maybe not in light of this news!
- jnwatson 4y agoI recently spoke to a datacenter planner. I wouldn't be surprised if the global spend on new datacenters for 2023 is on the order of $100 billion. If this continues for a few more years, this is planet-shaping change. I just Googled it. Gartner estimated $125 billion. https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/cloud-and-colocation-data-center-capex-to-hit-125b-by-2023-report https://www.fiercetelecom.com/telecom/cloud-and-colocation-d...