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108 points by HieronymusBosch 4y ago

bitwize 4y ago
Better title: 2 Planets
StayTrue 4y ago
Reminds me of the canonical list of operating systems that suck from alt.sysadmin.recovery (spoiler: all of them).
- mnd999 4y ago
  Hard to find that now: https://web.archive.org/web/20060720153542/http://www.ehlke.net/os-suck.html https://web.archive.org/web/20060720153542/http://www.ehlke....
quercusa 4y ago
If my code ran on the Mars helicopter I'd never be able to shut up about it.
- bombcar 4y ago
  Especially if it wasn’t designed specifically for that purpose. Someone else looked at your code and said “this is good for space”.
  - sph 4y ago
    "This is good for a one of a kind billion dollar project at the frontier of science." That would feel pretty dope.
- ankaAr 4y ago
  They must to run doom on that helicopter
- NateEag 4y ago
  A lot of people have this GitHub badge: https://github.blog/changelog/2021-04-19-new-badge-for-developers-who-contributed-to-the-mars-2020-helicopter-mission/ https://github.blog/changelog/2021-04-19-new-badge-for-devel...
  - turtleyacht 4y ago
    List of qualifying repos for the Mars 2020 Helicopter Contributor achievement: https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-and-managing-your-github-profile/customizing-your-profile/personalizing-your-profile#list-of-qualifying-repositories-for-mars-2020-helicopter-contributor-achievement https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-an...
rpigab 4y ago
Here's an unnecessary use of curl: curl perdu.com You can use netcat instead, HTTP is easy to write and read: nc perdu.com 80 <<< 'GET / HTTP/1.1'$'\r\n''Host: perdu.com'$'\r\n''Connection: close'$'\r\n\r\n' Inspired by https://fasterthanli.me/articles/the-http-crash-course-nobody-asked-for https://fasterthanli.me/articles/the-http-crash-course-nobod...
- woodruffw 4y ago
  You probably don’t ever actually want to do that, except as a demonstration to someone who doesn’t know how HTTP works. (It also doesn’t support TLS or any version of HTTP other than 1.1, whereas curl can negotiate a newer version.)
- jfoutz 4y ago
  you've blown chunked transfer encoding, which is a client MUST https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2616#section-3.6 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2616#section-3.6 If you control both ends, no big deal. If you're just working out some protocol, no big deal. I love simple toy solutions to problems, especially when understanding the problem space. But this is going to fall apart under any sort of pressure.
  - rpigab 4y ago
    This was a joke to poke fun at people who comment "unnecessary use of cat", but yeah, it's bad on many levels. However, in many simple cases, it will produce a valid response, since http server implementations are often extremely lenient. But I'd never use it because curl is truly everywhere.
- jstanley 4y ago
  That's not the same at all, because the nc example dumps the response headers to stdout and the curl example does not. It's more similar to "curl -i perdu.com", except (on my system? maybe it's non-default) curl colourises the header names when output to a TTY, and prints a progress report to stderr when output to a non-TTY.
- deleted 4y ago
cf100clunk 4y ago
Title would be clearer as ''How curl has reached nearly ten billion installations''
neoneye2 4y ago
Wild stats. Kudos. What things did you do right/wrong on this amazing journey?
anderspitman 4y ago
curl is amazing[0]. But I use maybe 10% of it. And AFAIK it can't be statically linked. Is there an alternative that includes mainly the HTTP functionality and is static? [0]: you can read my blog using curl: https://apitman.com/17/#curlable https://apitman.com/17/#curlable
- btdmaster 4y ago
  Someone got a static build working on MacOS: https://github.com/curl/curl/issues/9359 https://github.com/curl/curl/issues/9359 (it looks like a pain, but certainly doable given enough time and dependency fiddling)
- stevekemp 4y ago
  If you've got perl installed you'll might have a "GET" binary present, mine is /usr/bin/GET, which comes with the WWW-module. Although this is written in portable perl, rather than being compiled, so the static vs. dynamic choice doesn't really mean much it is a simple alternative. Otherwise I built a simple busybox-inspired collection of tools, written in golang, which includes a simple HTTP client too: https://github.com/skx/sysbox https://github.com/skx/sysbox Those are just a couple of examples, I'm certain there are multiple other choices out there. But I guess curl is ubiquitous enough that most people just use it directly, and add it when missing!
Epa095 4y ago
Wait, curl can read pop3? And smb? And fricking mqtt?? I learn something new every day. Time to go replace my email client with curl.
- last_responder 4y ago
  MQTT was surprising to me too. I’m a big fan and i’m wondering what I can replace with this new found info. Edit: Qos 0 only so nothing . Interesting though

bitwize 4y ago

Better title: 2 Planets

StayTrue 4y ago

Reminds me of the canonical list of operating systems that suck from alt.sysadmin.recovery (spoiler: all of them).

mnd999 4y ago
Hard to find that now: https://web.archive.org/web/20060720153542/http://www.ehlke.net/os-suck.html https://web.archive.org/web/20060720153542/http://www.ehlke....

quercusa 4y ago

If my code ran on the Mars helicopter I'd never be able to shut up about it.

bombcar 4y ago
Especially if it wasn’t designed specifically for that purpose. Someone else looked at your code and said “this is good for space”.
- sph 4y ago
  "This is good for a one of a kind billion dollar project at the frontier of science." That would feel pretty dope.
ankaAr 4y ago
They must to run doom on that helicopter
NateEag 4y ago
A lot of people have this GitHub badge: https://github.blog/changelog/2021-04-19-new-badge-for-developers-who-contributed-to-the-mars-2020-helicopter-mission/ https://github.blog/changelog/2021-04-19-new-badge-for-devel...
- turtleyacht 4y ago
  List of qualifying repos for the Mars 2020 Helicopter Contributor achievement: https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-and-managing-your-github-profile/customizing-your-profile/personalizing-your-profile#list-of-qualifying-repositories-for-mars-2020-helicopter-contributor-achievement https://docs.github.com/en/account-and-profile/setting-up-an...

rpigab 4y ago

Here's an unnecessary use of curl: curl perdu.com You can use netcat instead, HTTP is easy to write and read: nc perdu.com 80 <<< 'GET / HTTP/1.1'$'\r\n''Host: perdu.com'$'\r\n''Connection: close'$'\r\n\r\n' Inspired by https://fasterthanli.me/articles/the-http-crash-course-nobody-asked-for https://fasterthanli.me/articles/the-http-crash-course-nobod...

woodruffw 4y ago
You probably don’t ever actually want to do that, except as a demonstration to someone who doesn’t know how HTTP works. (It also doesn’t support TLS or any version of HTTP other than 1.1, whereas curl can negotiate a newer version.)
jfoutz 4y ago
you've blown chunked transfer encoding, which is a client MUST https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2616#section-3.6 https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc2616#section-3.6 If you control both ends, no big deal. If you're just working out some protocol, no big deal. I love simple toy solutions to problems, especially when understanding the problem space. But this is going to fall apart under any sort of pressure.
- rpigab 4y ago
  This was a joke to poke fun at people who comment "unnecessary use of cat", but yeah, it's bad on many levels. However, in many simple cases, it will produce a valid response, since http server implementations are often extremely lenient. But I'd never use it because curl is truly everywhere.
jstanley 4y ago
That's not the same at all, because the nc example dumps the response headers to stdout and the curl example does not. It's more similar to "curl -i perdu.com", except (on my system? maybe it's non-default) curl colourises the header names when output to a TTY, and prints a progress report to stderr when output to a non-TTY.
deleted 4y ago

cf100clunk 4y ago

Title would be clearer as ''How curl has reached nearly ten billion installations''

neoneye2 4y ago

Wild stats. Kudos. What things did you do right/wrong on this amazing journey?

anderspitman 4y ago

curl is amazing[0]. But I use maybe 10% of it. And AFAIK it can't be statically linked. Is there an alternative that includes mainly the HTTP functionality and is static? [0]: you can read my blog using curl: https://apitman.com/17/#curlable https://apitman.com/17/#curlable

btdmaster 4y ago
Someone got a static build working on MacOS: https://github.com/curl/curl/issues/9359 https://github.com/curl/curl/issues/9359 (it looks like a pain, but certainly doable given enough time and dependency fiddling)
stevekemp 4y ago
If you've got perl installed you'll might have a "GET" binary present, mine is /usr/bin/GET, which comes with the WWW-module. Although this is written in portable perl, rather than being compiled, so the static vs. dynamic choice doesn't really mean much it is a simple alternative. Otherwise I built a simple busybox-inspired collection of tools, written in golang, which includes a simple HTTP client too: https://github.com/skx/sysbox https://github.com/skx/sysbox Those are just a couple of examples, I'm certain there are multiple other choices out there. But I guess curl is ubiquitous enough that most people just use it directly, and add it when missing!

Epa095 4y ago

Wait, curl can read pop3? And smb? And fricking mqtt?? I learn something new every day. Time to go replace my email client with curl.

last_responder 4y ago
MQTT was surprising to me too. I’m a big fan and i’m wondering what I can replace with this new found info. Edit: Qos 0 only so nothing . Interesting though