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Man's achievement is to have created a world of rhyme, in the intimate imagination which is as real in its way as any country on the map. Sir Karl Popper, in on
by morsch 4y ago
Man's achievement is to have created a world of rhyme, in the intimate imagination which is as real in its way as any country on the map. Sir Karl Popper, in one of his most important papers, calls it "The Third World" or "World 3". The first world is the objective world of things. The second world is my inner subjective world; but, says Popper, there's a third world, the world of objective contents of thoughts.
Teilhard de Chardin calls this third world the "Noosphere", that is, the world of the mind.
- lisper 4y agohttps://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Deepity https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Deepity
- morsch 4y agoSure. It's lyrics from a song, though. ;) https://genius.com/The-orb-oobe-lyrics https://genius.com/The-orb-oobe-lyrics I was curious if anybody would pick up on it, but I guess it's a pretty obscure song. Not sure where the sample is from originally, actually.
- lisper 4y ago> it's a pretty obscure song Gee, ya think?
- morsch 4y agoIt's not like it's my cousin's band, it's The Orb. They were even in the charts that one time. But I'll be sure to include a Willie Nelson reference for you at some point in the future.
- lisper 4y agoJust because it's a well-known band doesn't mean that you can reasonably expect people to be familiar with that particular passage, especially since it doesn't look like a song lyric, it looks like prose, and you posted it without attribution, or even a hint that it was anything other than what it appears on the surface to be: prose. And it's not just prose, it's prose of the sort that one might expect to find here on HN. So you should not be surprised when someone's Bayesian prior on that passage leans heavily towards original prose. (The real irony here is that it actually is a deepity, it just happens to be sourced from a context where deepities are normal.)
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- kelseyfrog 4y agoLet's give credit where credit is due - The Platonists from Plato to Plotinus. The "noosphere" isn't a new concept, it's hundreds upon hundreds of years old and has a rich history in the construction and blossoming of ontology itself id est the noetic world. It's important to understand the history, context, and dialogues of noetics otherwise one might be taken advantage of. The noosphere is none other than an ecological adaptation of noetics confirmed to fit modernism ie: the inexorable march of progress narrative. Roughly mid-20th century, noetics we're reframed as a process of externalizing/alienating internal social ontologies as if they were real things. Again, it's important to understand this so as not to commit the previous historical sins. The reason I bring this up is because people inadvertently (or purposely) externalize their personal ontologies as fact nearly all the time. There's great constructive power in "is" and anyone interacting with the "Noosphere" should be actively aware as such.