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Greg Kroah Hartman on the Linux Kernel and How It Is Tested (2008) [video]

93 points by ekianjo 4y ago

mritzmann 4y ago
For reference for HN users who don't know who this is: > Greg Kroah-Hartman is a major Linux kernel developer. As of April 2013 he is the Linux kernel maintainer for the -stable branch, the staging subsystem, USB, driver core, debugfs, kref, kobject, and the sysfs kernel subsystems, Userspace I/O (with Hans J. Koch), and TTY layer. From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman
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- sph 4y ago
  I think it's fair to say he's the number two guy in the kernel. Is he younger than Linus? I could see him running the show when Linus has enough and calls it a day.
  - stingraycharles 4y ago
    From what I understood, when Linus took his break a few years back, this is exactly what happened.
- up2isomorphism 4y ago
  He is the guy that corporate guys feel more “manageable”than Linus. Linus has been losing control on Linux directions long time ago.
  - gregkh 4y ago
    Corporate guys "manage me"? Have you talked to any corporate guys who have actually tried that and discussed the results with them? :)
    - kleiba 4y ago
      What is probably meant is "find easier to deal with" (hence the quotes around "manageable"). I'm only guessing, though - but in any event, let's not forget that not everyone around here is a native speaker of English! I can relate to the fact that it's sometimes difficult to express exactly what you have in mind.
    - armitron 4y ago
      I think that two fiascos that you've been a part of, kdbus [1][2] and UMN [3], have conditioned some people to view you in a certain light. [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/649111/ https://lwn.net/Articles/649111/ [2] https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/04860.html https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/04860.html [3] https://twitter.com/spendergrsec/status/1532715644734644228 https://twitter.com/spendergrsec/status/1532715644734644228
  - gtirloni 4y ago
    > Linus has been losing control on Linux directions long time ago. I'm interested :)
mycpuorg 4y ago
Shameless Plug: I was very fortunate to have a conversation with him a few years ago. We talked a bit about his journey and a bit about his hacks, his setup, and of course a lot about Linux: http://www.mycpu.org/interview-with-GKH/ http://www.mycpu.org/interview-with-GKH/
turtleyacht 4y ago
Recent and related: Ask HN: Why the Linux kernel has no unit tests? - Nov 2022 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33742130 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33742130 (204 comments)

93 points by ekianjo 4y ago

For reference for HN users who don't know who this is: > Greg Kroah-Hartman is a major Linux kernel developer. As of April 2013 he is the Linux kernel maintainer for the -stable branch, the staging subsystem, USB, driver core, debugfs, kref, kobject, and the sysfs kernel subsystems, Userspace I/O (with Hans J. Koch), and TTY layer. From Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greg_Kroah-Hartman

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sph 4y ago
I think it's fair to say he's the number two guy in the kernel. Is he younger than Linus? I could see him running the show when Linus has enough and calls it a day.
- stingraycharles 4y ago
  From what I understood, when Linus took his break a few years back, this is exactly what happened.
up2isomorphism 4y ago
He is the guy that corporate guys feel more “manageable”than Linus. Linus has been losing control on Linux directions long time ago.
- gregkh 4y ago
  Corporate guys "manage me"? Have you talked to any corporate guys who have actually tried that and discussed the results with them? :)
  - kleiba 4y ago
    What is probably meant is "find easier to deal with" (hence the quotes around "manageable"). I'm only guessing, though - but in any event, let's not forget that not everyone around here is a native speaker of English! I can relate to the fact that it's sometimes difficult to express exactly what you have in mind.
  - armitron 4y ago
    I think that two fiascos that you've been a part of, kdbus [1][2] and UMN [3], have conditioned some people to view you in a certain light. [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/649111/ https://lwn.net/Articles/649111/ [2] https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/04860.html https://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/04860.html [3] https://twitter.com/spendergrsec/status/1532715644734644228 https://twitter.com/spendergrsec/status/1532715644734644228
- gtirloni 4y ago
  > Linus has been losing control on Linux directions long time ago. I'm interested :)

mycpuorg 4y ago

Shameless Plug: I was very fortunate to have a conversation with him a few years ago. We talked a bit about his journey and a bit about his hacks, his setup, and of course a lot about Linux: http://www.mycpu.org/interview-with-GKH/ http://www.mycpu.org/interview-with-GKH/

turtleyacht 4y ago

Recent and related: Ask HN: Why the Linux kernel has no unit tests? - Nov 2022 - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33742130 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33742130 (204 comments)