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What a clickbaity headline. It's just about one state, and only for schools. (The first sentence of that article is: "The central German state of Hesse’s local
by planb 4y ago
What a clickbaity headline. It's just about one state, and only for schools.
(The first sentence of that article is: "The central German state of Hesse’s local Data Protection Authority (DPA) has banned the use of Microsoft 365 in its schools")
- BartjeD 4y agoIt is a bit clickbaity. But on the whole i'd say its warranted. Because these judgements are precedents which bind other DPA's. The scope of the factual findings is broad enough to say that it affects any business using 365 handling personal data. That leaves only the question of legality in the specific case. Which depends on the presence and kind of personal data present in 365.
- _tk_ 4y agoData privacy agencies in German federal states do not rely on precedents set by other agencies. They have authority over how the law is interpreted in their federal state. Coming back to the gp, this title is not only clickbait, it's outright wrong. Similar decisions have been made in recent years in other federal states, nothing has changed for the national state of Germany or businesses in Germany.
- BartjeD 4y agoThis is only partly correct: In so far as Privacy law is based on EU law the DPA has duty apply the law in a consistent manner. In line with the rest of the EU, that is to say. To avoid fractures and discrepancies in EU law. Obviously these issues can sometimes only be decided at EU level. But the DPA's usually meet each other to discuss and align on contentious issues. And at other times they wait for EU level judgements. What's worrying in this case is that it's becoming a trend.
- Tomte 4y ago> precedents which bind other DPA's. They aren't legally binding. Neither are they in practice. The German DPAs alone are famous for bickering between one another.
- BartjeD 4y agoThey have a duty to cooperate though: They cannot disregard other rulings. Conflicts interpretation and by extension conclusions are typically finally resolved at the EU level. When there is bickering. In practice you see this happening at several levels, in France as well as in Germany there are bans on 365. And in separate states in Germany. etc.. I expect this will come to a head at the EU level. And I'm nervous customers will move away from 365. Because Azure AD integrations will then need to be replaced. But I suspect things won't move quite so fast.
- causality0 4y agoWhat I'm wondering is, how is office 365 really any worse than Windows 10/11 itself?
- BartjeD 4y agoI am also wondering this. But I hope it won't move quite so far or fast as to ban Windows.
- RalfWausE 4y agoOh, this would be absolutely great and a day to celebrate for me.
- causality0 4y agoJust imagine how lovely things would be if regulatory pressure forced Microsoft to make Windows 12 as non-user-hostile as Windows 7. A man can dream...
- taneliv 4y agoFrom the article: Germany’s Federal Office for Information (BSI, in German) has already expressed concern that Windows 10 and 11 operating systems collect telemetry data, including typing data and even speech-to-text. In response, German and French public schools switched to Linux operating systems and other Office 365 alternatives for their educational needs.