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Sure, it may be true, when I travel to Brazil, girls always want me to buy them an iPhone (and probably other affluent tourist guys as well). Of course they are

Sure, it may be true, when I travel to Brazil, girls always want me to buy them an iPhone (and probably other affluent tourist guys as well). Of course they are not the one buying it, they always get it as a gift.

scarface74 4y ago
How does that dispute anything I said? It’s still affluent people buying the phone and wouldn’t struggle buying a $10 USB wall charger.
- whatsu 4y ago
  We have alot iphones in favelas. People buy in up to 24 installments. An official Apple charger costs R$ 220 (reais) in the official store, that's 20% of the monthly minimum wage.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    Then don’t buy an official Apple charger? You can buy a cheap third party charger almost anywhere.
    - whatsu 4y ago
      It doesn't matter if it is official or not, selling a product that needs another one to work is configured as "tie-in sales", plainly prohibited in Brazil's Consumer Protection Code.
      - scarface74 4y ago
        In that case, it would be illegal to sell a game console that requires games to work or selling a cell phone that requires cell service to work. Does that also mean that Apple can’t sell an AppleTV without an HDMI cable? Or for that matter sell an AppleTV without selling a router or without selling internet service.
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- skinnymuch 4y ago
  What if the richer person didn’t realize this and gives the poor person the iPhone without a charger? The rich person has left. They cannot buy the wall charger any more. Not everyone has extra money. In the US, it’s easy to get an iPhone for “free” that locks you in 2-3 years of credits. A person can be in debt and paycheck to paycheck and get an iPhone. Apple isn’t doing anything for the environment. They are doing what makes them the most money. We should be on the side of the common person who is like us, regardless of how poor they are or if they got an iPhone they can not afford. There’s no reason to be on Apple’s side.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    So rich people are buying poor people an iPhone - where the poor person still has to pay their own cell phone bill. But the poor person can’t buy a cheap third party usb c wall charger? And if Apple is forced to include a wall charger, what’s stopping them from just charging extra for the phone? You really don’t think this argument is a little incredulous? Seeing that 90% of the world even in third world countries have some type of phone, you’re telling me that the person who got the free iPhone in the most expensive country in the world to buy a phone won’t find a way to buy a charger when if they hadn’t gotten the phone for free they would have bought an Android phone - that costs more than the charger?
    - skinnymuch 4y ago
      Why make life harder for the poor person? To appease Apple’s profit line? I don’t understand the defense of huge corporation vs someone closer to you. They could raise the price. They probably wouldn’t do. Those would be the wierdest price points. Apple isn’t gonna charge $10 more per iPhone and have weird first time prices. Like $810 instead of $799 My example isn’t even a stretch. It’s a legit issue that happens. I have multiple examples of it. I don’t want to assume but maybe you’re in some sort of bubble?

scarface74 4y ago

How does that dispute anything I said? It’s still affluent people buying the phone and wouldn’t struggle buying a $10 USB wall charger.

whatsu 4y ago
We have alot iphones in favelas. People buy in up to 24 installments. An official Apple charger costs R$ 220 (reais) in the official store, that's 20% of the monthly minimum wage.
- scarface74 4y ago
  Then don’t buy an official Apple charger? You can buy a cheap third party charger almost anywhere.
  - whatsu 4y ago
    It doesn't matter if it is official or not, selling a product that needs another one to work is configured as "tie-in sales", plainly prohibited in Brazil's Consumer Protection Code.
    - scarface74 4y ago
      In that case, it would be illegal to sell a game console that requires games to work or selling a cell phone that requires cell service to work. Does that also mean that Apple can’t sell an AppleTV without an HDMI cable? Or for that matter sell an AppleTV without selling a router or without selling internet service.
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skinnymuch 4y ago
What if the richer person didn’t realize this and gives the poor person the iPhone without a charger? The rich person has left. They cannot buy the wall charger any more. Not everyone has extra money. In the US, it’s easy to get an iPhone for “free” that locks you in 2-3 years of credits. A person can be in debt and paycheck to paycheck and get an iPhone. Apple isn’t doing anything for the environment. They are doing what makes them the most money. We should be on the side of the common person who is like us, regardless of how poor they are or if they got an iPhone they can not afford. There’s no reason to be on Apple’s side.
- scarface74 4y ago
  So rich people are buying poor people an iPhone - where the poor person still has to pay their own cell phone bill. But the poor person can’t buy a cheap third party usb c wall charger? And if Apple is forced to include a wall charger, what’s stopping them from just charging extra for the phone? You really don’t think this argument is a little incredulous? Seeing that 90% of the world even in third world countries have some type of phone, you’re telling me that the person who got the free iPhone in the most expensive country in the world to buy a phone won’t find a way to buy a charger when if they hadn’t gotten the phone for free they would have bought an Android phone - that costs more than the charger?
  - skinnymuch 4y ago
    Why make life harder for the poor person? To appease Apple’s profit line? I don’t understand the defense of huge corporation vs someone closer to you. They could raise the price. They probably wouldn’t do. Those would be the wierdest price points. Apple isn’t gonna charge $10 more per iPhone and have weird first time prices. Like $810 instead of $799 My example isn’t even a stretch. It’s a legit issue that happens. I have multiple examples of it. I don’t want to assume but maybe you’re in some sort of bubble?