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Without some citations, this is just a internet claim. I will note that it would be very convenient to a lot of big industries which happen to have very well fu

by otikik 4y ago

Without some citations, this is just a internet claim. I will note that it would be very convenient to a lot of big industries which happen to have very well funded marketing teams if what you wrote was true.

jacknews 4y ago
I'm not going to write a paper every time I comment. I don't see how your insinuation that my comments are pro plastic-corp-marketing is valid in any way. I've said the fishing industry should end. And that manufacturers should be responsible for the life-cycle of their products, but that of course the rest of society needs to play their part in that, unless we force coke etc to employ garbage-collection departments, etc, etc. Or we can just ban plastics entirely, but honestly, plastic is used for a reason, and for example a plastic bag is highly efficient, especially when it's used multiple times (as all mine are), and then as temporary storage, bin liners, etc. I'd like also to note that although the headline is 'Coke', which I assume is mostly PET bottles (quite recycleable), Unilever is also in the list. IMHO cosmetics, soaps, detergents are the actual worst manufacturers when it comes to plastic waste, and seem to be avoiding the spotlight, compared to plastic bags, straws, etc.
- otikik 4y ago
  A simple “according to xxx” would have sufficed, no need for an essay. I’ve heard the same thing, I don’t know from where, and that makes me suspect. I wish it where true, it would mean we have to change 1 single industry instead of all manufacturing. The pictures I have seen from The Great Plastic Texas-sized zone didn’t look like fishnets. I don’t think you are pro-Coca-Cola but I do think that message being out there benefits them.
  - jacknews 4y ago
    One recent report https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/07/invisible-killer-ghost-fishing-gear-deadliest-marine-plastic https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/07/invisibl... And I'm not saying this is the only problem, far from it. We do still have to deal with consumer plastic waste, but we can't just blame manufacturers for that, as the main problem is that it isn't collected properly. Sure, manufacturers should make less (but we should demand less), make it more easily collected, and be held responsible for the fate of their products; maybe taxed based on re-useability, etc. But it's quite simplistic and just misses the real issues to blame coke for dead whales.

by otikik 4y ago

jacknews 4y ago

I'm not going to write a paper every time I comment. I don't see how your insinuation that my comments are pro plastic-corp-marketing is valid in any way. I've said the fishing industry should end. And that manufacturers should be responsible for the life-cycle of their products, but that of course the rest of society needs to play their part in that, unless we force coke etc to employ garbage-collection departments, etc, etc. Or we can just ban plastics entirely, but honestly, plastic is used for a reason, and for example a plastic bag is highly efficient, especially when it's used multiple times (as all mine are), and then as temporary storage, bin liners, etc. I'd like also to note that although the headline is 'Coke', which I assume is mostly PET bottles (quite recycleable), Unilever is also in the list. IMHO cosmetics, soaps, detergents are the actual worst manufacturers when it comes to plastic waste, and seem to be avoiding the spotlight, compared to plastic bags, straws, etc.

otikik 4y ago
A simple “according to xxx” would have sufficed, no need for an essay. I’ve heard the same thing, I don’t know from where, and that makes me suspect. I wish it where true, it would mean we have to change 1 single industry instead of all manufacturing. The pictures I have seen from The Great Plastic Texas-sized zone didn’t look like fishnets. I don’t think you are pro-Coca-Cola but I do think that message being out there benefits them.
- jacknews 4y ago
  One recent report https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/07/invisible-killer-ghost-fishing-gear-deadliest-marine-plastic https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/nov/07/invisibl... And I'm not saying this is the only problem, far from it. We do still have to deal with consumer plastic waste, but we can't just blame manufacturers for that, as the main problem is that it isn't collected properly. Sure, manufacturers should make less (but we should demand less), make it more easily collected, and be held responsible for the fate of their products; maybe taxed based on re-useability, etc. But it's quite simplistic and just misses the real issues to blame coke for dead whales.