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- Thousands of workers have died in the building process. I mean really FIFA? - The cost of the carnival is over 200 billion usd (compare it for 0.5 billion in

- Thousands of workers have died in the building process. I mean really FIFA? - The cost of the carnival is over 200 billion usd (compare it for 0.5 billion in US 1994) - Sexual minorities are persecuted in Qatar and FIFA completely downplays this, making the whole organization look ridiculously corrupt. That should give you a headstart. Of the actual app/site: Thanks, bookmarked! I also want to see the scores, but dont want anything else to do with this sh*tshow.

lvbu 4y ago
What is your problem with quatar spending their money?
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  The problem is that the Qatari state uses its blood money to buy publicity for itself and improve the optics of their slavestate by arranging lavish sports arrangements to project an air of wealth and prosperity when in fact it's nothing but a slavery powered kleptocracy. I wonder how you could possibly be ok with this. Are you some kind of libertarian?
  - lvbu 4y ago
    The money with Quatar is not blood money. It's just money from selling natural gas. Just like norway got it's pension fund. And how is quatar a slavery. Are they slaves just because they are a monarchy? Yes quatar is a monarchy and they behave like dictators. But so is Russia where sports competitions are held. So is china where olympicis was held. Even the prosperity of Europe is made on the back of colonialism. So is London which is the place where all the criminals from around world move their money into. So i Switzerland which has a reputation of storing black money. So is France which still leech Money from Africa. 1. Do you plan to not use petroleum and natural gas which comes mostly from MENA and Russia 2. DO you plan to not use phones made in china which is a dictatorship
    - iforgotpassword 4y ago
      If a married woman gets raped in Qatar, she cannot report it to police, as that would lead to her getting the death penalty for adultery. That country is absolutely fucking horrible. Like, even places ad bad as India where men regularly attack women with acid pale in comparison.
      - lvbu 4y ago
        So what is the problem? Is it slavery? Is it that quatar is hot? Is it that quatar doesn't like LGBTQ? Why new reasons come up in every comment rather than any justification for the parent comment at all? Are you going to watch football or to marry someone? And should you boycott US also where random people kill innocent children regularly for no reason? From this discussions in this thread atleast the problem with quatar is nothing of what is mentioned. Westerners can't accept that a nation culturally so different from theris can host an important tournament. They can't accept that people's have different priorities different cultures and different way of looking at life. They can't accept that about 2 billion people of the world are having the most accesible world cup. In short, they can't accept that world doesent exist just for westerners. Since they can't tell that openly due to being called out for racism, they come up with these reasons..
        iforgotpassword 4y ago
        You are the one who is trying to turn around the discussion all the time. So give me some straight answers: You think punishing a woman for getting raped is acceptable? You think punishing someone for being homosexual is acceptable? You think treating workers building the Worldcup facilities like slaves by working them to death is acceptable? Please give me straight yes/no answers to those. No more hand-wavy BS and then stating how accessible the Worldcup now is. It's mind-bending how you can turn around and call criticizing these things a proxy for racism, or that it's just cultural difference. > And should you boycott US also where random people kill innocent children regularly for no reason? You're already admitting here how different it is. You say random people, and that's what it is. Individual people or a group of people misbehaving, acting against the law which can and does get prosecuted. Not always unfortunately, and there are systematic problems that need to be addressed, but unlike Qatar's many crimes against humanity, they are not institutionalized and written in law. Again, the West is by far not perfect, but compared to these kind of countries, we've come a very long way.

lvbu 4y ago

What is your problem with quatar spending their money?

mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
The problem is that the Qatari state uses its blood money to buy publicity for itself and improve the optics of their slavestate by arranging lavish sports arrangements to project an air of wealth and prosperity when in fact it's nothing but a slavery powered kleptocracy. I wonder how you could possibly be ok with this. Are you some kind of libertarian?
- lvbu 4y ago
  The money with Quatar is not blood money. It's just money from selling natural gas. Just like norway got it's pension fund. And how is quatar a slavery. Are they slaves just because they are a monarchy? Yes quatar is a monarchy and they behave like dictators. But so is Russia where sports competitions are held. So is china where olympicis was held. Even the prosperity of Europe is made on the back of colonialism. So is London which is the place where all the criminals from around world move their money into. So i Switzerland which has a reputation of storing black money. So is France which still leech Money from Africa. 1. Do you plan to not use petroleum and natural gas which comes mostly from MENA and Russia 2. DO you plan to not use phones made in china which is a dictatorship
  - iforgotpassword 4y ago
    If a married woman gets raped in Qatar, she cannot report it to police, as that would lead to her getting the death penalty for adultery. That country is absolutely fucking horrible. Like, even places ad bad as India where men regularly attack women with acid pale in comparison.
    - lvbu 4y ago
      So what is the problem? Is it slavery? Is it that quatar is hot? Is it that quatar doesn't like LGBTQ? Why new reasons come up in every comment rather than any justification for the parent comment at all? Are you going to watch football or to marry someone? And should you boycott US also where random people kill innocent children regularly for no reason? From this discussions in this thread atleast the problem with quatar is nothing of what is mentioned. Westerners can't accept that a nation culturally so different from theris can host an important tournament. They can't accept that people's have different priorities different cultures and different way of looking at life. They can't accept that about 2 billion people of the world are having the most accesible world cup. In short, they can't accept that world doesent exist just for westerners. Since they can't tell that openly due to being called out for racism, they come up with these reasons..
      - iforgotpassword 4y ago
        You are the one who is trying to turn around the discussion all the time. So give me some straight answers: You think punishing a woman for getting raped is acceptable? You think punishing someone for being homosexual is acceptable? You think treating workers building the Worldcup facilities like slaves by working them to death is acceptable? Please give me straight yes/no answers to those. No more hand-wavy BS and then stating how accessible the Worldcup now is. It's mind-bending how you can turn around and call criticizing these things a proxy for racism, or that it's just cultural difference. > And should you boycott US also where random people kill innocent children regularly for no reason? You're already admitting here how different it is. You say random people, and that's what it is. Individual people or a group of people misbehaving, acting against the law which can and does get prosecuted. Not always unfortunately, and there are systematic problems that need to be addressed, but unlike Qatar's many crimes against humanity, they are not institutionalized and written in law. Again, the West is by far not perfect, but compared to these kind of countries, we've come a very long way.