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Have I missed something? What’s wrong with this WC?

by zkid18 4y ago

mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
The stadiums are built by what is essentially slave labour. The choice of Qatar was obviously a result of corruption in the first place as it's not even a suitable location. That's why it's in November instead of the summer, which has completely disrupted the club season by compressing it, causing a fuckton of injuries in the busiest leagues. It's a complete shitshow any way you look at it.
- ESMirro 4y ago
  All of the above combined with the fact that it has just led to some truly terrible football. The international version of the sport is always 5-10 years, tactically, behind the club game, but the week or so most of the big teams have had to truly prepare compared to the usual 3, has ensured almost every team is playing in the same basic style and that the best players are, if not injured, then just exhausted from the hectic season.
  - ramesh31 4y ago
    Is there not a financial incentive to perform? This is how American sports keep the All-Star games competitive.
    - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
      The financial incentives in national football are peanuts compared to high level club football, so not really.
  - adammarples 4y ago
    Also it's so hot that there are 5 subs per game, which has led to 9+ minutes of stoppage time in most games, pretty bizarre. Iran just scored 2 goals in the 99th and 100th minute to win.
    - ESMirro 4y ago
      I don’t necessarily mind the extended stoppage time, it’s actually something I’ve believed would benefit the game for a long time. I’m glad to see it trialled in a populist tournament that should lead to lasting changes in the more interesting competitions.
Aaronmacaron 4y ago
- The WC is primarily a football tournament. Qatar is a country where it's too hot to play football even in the winter. They had to add ACs to the Stadiums so it's somewhat tolerable (not a joke). - Because it's so hot in Qatar the WC was moved to the winter. This breaks the long standing tradition of doing the WC in the summer. - In many countries where people actually care about the WC it's cold and rainy in winter. Traditions such watching the WC outside with family and friends obviously cannot exist this time around. - There is zero football history or tradition in Qatar. Nobody there actually cares about football. Why do the WC there? - It is very obvious that the only reason why we have a WC in Qatar is corruption. Corrupt people in the FIFA and in western goverments and willingness to bribe and do everything imaginable to get the WC from the Qatari government. - Qatar now has 8 large and very modern football stadiums in the radius of 50km but the entire country only has less than 3 million people. For camparison London has three times the population but not as many comparable stadiums eventhough London can be considered the world capital of football. Those stadiums will most likely not be really used after the WC. - It is a known fact that thousands of migrant workers had to die in order for those stadiums to be built. - Fans are not allowed to wear pride flag colors. Players are not allowed to armbands with pride flag colors because the Qatari government doesn't like it. Edit: formatting
- lvbu 4y ago
  1. This is one of that ways to get more people interested in football. Majority of the population is in south asia and chinela, Quatar is quite close and this wc is very accessible for us 2. Why world cup is held in summer? Is it because Europe is cold in winter and Europeans prefer summer. Unfortunately world is not just Europe. Since this is WORLD cup why should it not be held in seasons that is suited where it is hosted? 3.Same as above. Football is popular across world. 4. May be this is to get football more popular in middle East. Why only conduct where it is popular now. Let's conduct where more young people are present. 5. Corruption in FIFA is not new. This is not specific to this world cup. 6. So what. May be Quatar is trying to be a sports destination of MENA. It's their money. Let them spend it the way they want. 7. So has a large number of people died in making the phones, clothes, chocolates, diamond, cofee or anything in Modern world. Do you stop using phones and clothes because of that? I come from Kerala in india where a large population emigrate to Arab countries including Quatar. Heck even my uncle was there at some point. People go to these places because they pay well. May be not as much as western world would like, but much more than we make here. So i don't give too much importance to the stories about slave labour and everything. 8. Are you coming to watch football or to promote pride culture?
taikahessu 4y ago
- Thousands of workers have died in the building process. I mean really FIFA? - The cost of the carnival is over 200 billion usd (compare it for 0.5 billion in US 1994) - Sexual minorities are persecuted in Qatar and FIFA completely downplays this, making the whole organization look ridiculously corrupt. That should give you a headstart. Of the actual app/site: Thanks, bookmarked! I also want to see the scores, but dont want anything else to do with this sh*tshow.
- lvbu 4y ago
  What is your problem with quatar spending their money?
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
    The problem is that the Qatari state uses its blood money to buy publicity for itself and improve the optics of their slavestate by arranging lavish sports arrangements to project an air of wealth and prosperity when in fact it's nothing but a slavery powered kleptocracy. I wonder how you could possibly be ok with this. Are you some kind of libertarian?
    - lvbu 4y ago
      The money with Quatar is not blood money. It's just money from selling natural gas. Just like norway got it's pension fund. And how is quatar a slavery. Are they slaves just because they are a monarchy? Yes quatar is a monarchy and they behave like dictators. But so is Russia where sports competitions are held. So is china where olympicis was held. Even the prosperity of Europe is made on the back of colonialism. So is London which is the place where all the criminals from around world move their money into. So i Switzerland which has a reputation of storing black money. So is France which still leech Money from Africa. 1. Do you plan to not use petroleum and natural gas which comes mostly from MENA and Russia 2. DO you plan to not use phones made in china which is a dictatorship
      - iforgotpassword 4y ago

Have I missed something? What’s wrong with this WC?

by zkid18 4y ago

Have I missed something? What’s wrong with this WC?

The stadiums are built by what is essentially slave labour. The choice of Qatar was obviously a result of corruption in the first place as it's not even a suitable location. That's why it's in November instead of the summer, which has completely disrupted the club season by compressing it, causing a fuckton of injuries in the busiest leagues. It's a complete shitshow any way you look at it.

ESMirro 4y ago
All of the above combined with the fact that it has just led to some truly terrible football. The international version of the sport is always 5-10 years, tactically, behind the club game, but the week or so most of the big teams have had to truly prepare compared to the usual 3, has ensured almost every team is playing in the same basic style and that the best players are, if not injured, then just exhausted from the hectic season.
- ramesh31 4y ago
  Is there not a financial incentive to perform? This is how American sports keep the All-Star games competitive.
  - mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
    The financial incentives in national football are peanuts compared to high level club football, so not really.
- adammarples 4y ago
  Also it's so hot that there are 5 subs per game, which has led to 9+ minutes of stoppage time in most games, pretty bizarre. Iran just scored 2 goals in the 99th and 100th minute to win.
  - ESMirro 4y ago
    I don’t necessarily mind the extended stoppage time, it’s actually something I’ve believed would benefit the game for a long time. I’m glad to see it trialled in a populist tournament that should lead to lasting changes in the more interesting competitions.

Aaronmacaron 4y ago

- The WC is primarily a football tournament. Qatar is a country where it's too hot to play football even in the winter. They had to add ACs to the Stadiums so it's somewhat tolerable (not a joke). - Because it's so hot in Qatar the WC was moved to the winter. This breaks the long standing tradition of doing the WC in the summer. - In many countries where people actually care about the WC it's cold and rainy in winter. Traditions such watching the WC outside with family and friends obviously cannot exist this time around. - There is zero football history or tradition in Qatar. Nobody there actually cares about football. Why do the WC there? - It is very obvious that the only reason why we have a WC in Qatar is corruption. Corrupt people in the FIFA and in western goverments and willingness to bribe and do everything imaginable to get the WC from the Qatari government. - Qatar now has 8 large and very modern football stadiums in the radius of 50km but the entire country only has less than 3 million people. For camparison London has three times the population but not as many comparable stadiums eventhough London can be considered the world capital of football. Those stadiums will most likely not be really used after the WC. - It is a known fact that thousands of migrant workers had to die in order for those stadiums to be built. - Fans are not allowed to wear pride flag colors. Players are not allowed to armbands with pride flag colors because the Qatari government doesn't like it. Edit: formatting

lvbu 4y ago
1. This is one of that ways to get more people interested in football. Majority of the population is in south asia and chinela, Quatar is quite close and this wc is very accessible for us 2. Why world cup is held in summer? Is it because Europe is cold in winter and Europeans prefer summer. Unfortunately world is not just Europe. Since this is WORLD cup why should it not be held in seasons that is suited where it is hosted? 3.Same as above. Football is popular across world. 4. May be this is to get football more popular in middle East. Why only conduct where it is popular now. Let's conduct where more young people are present. 5. Corruption in FIFA is not new. This is not specific to this world cup. 6. So what. May be Quatar is trying to be a sports destination of MENA. It's their money. Let them spend it the way they want. 7. So has a large number of people died in making the phones, clothes, chocolates, diamond, cofee or anything in Modern world. Do you stop using phones and clothes because of that? I come from Kerala in india where a large population emigrate to Arab countries including Quatar. Heck even my uncle was there at some point. People go to these places because they pay well. May be not as much as western world would like, but much more than we make here. So i don't give too much importance to the stories about slave labour and everything. 8. Are you coming to watch football or to promote pride culture?

taikahessu 4y ago

- Thousands of workers have died in the building process. I mean really FIFA? - The cost of the carnival is over 200 billion usd (compare it for 0.5 billion in US 1994) - Sexual minorities are persecuted in Qatar and FIFA completely downplays this, making the whole organization look ridiculously corrupt. That should give you a headstart. Of the actual app/site: Thanks, bookmarked! I also want to see the scores, but dont want anything else to do with this sh*tshow.

lvbu 4y ago
What is your problem with quatar spending their money?
- mtlmtlmtlmtl 4y ago
  The problem is that the Qatari state uses its blood money to buy publicity for itself and improve the optics of their slavestate by arranging lavish sports arrangements to project an air of wealth and prosperity when in fact it's nothing but a slavery powered kleptocracy. I wonder how you could possibly be ok with this. Are you some kind of libertarian?
  - lvbu 4y ago
    The money with Quatar is not blood money. It's just money from selling natural gas. Just like norway got it's pension fund. And how is quatar a slavery. Are they slaves just because they are a monarchy? Yes quatar is a monarchy and they behave like dictators. But so is Russia where sports competitions are held. So is china where olympicis was held. Even the prosperity of Europe is made on the back of colonialism. So is London which is the place where all the criminals from around world move their money into. So i Switzerland which has a reputation of storing black money. So is France which still leech Money from Africa. 1. Do you plan to not use petroleum and natural gas which comes mostly from MENA and Russia 2. DO you plan to not use phones made in china which is a dictatorship
    - iforgotpassword 4y ago