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If you are charging two companies for 40 hours per week of work, while only working 20 hours per week for each of them, then that is fraud by any reasonable def

If you are charging two companies for 40 hours per week of work, while only working 20 hours per week for each of them, then that is fraud by any reasonable definition of the word.

ok_dad 4y ago
So I guess all those companies paying for 40 hours and getting 50 or 60 should be charged charged with fraud?
- mytherin 4y ago
  If your employer expects you to work 50 or 60 hours while only paying you for 40 hours then that is indeed also illegal.
  - w4ffl35 4y ago
    I take it you've never had a salary pay job in America. One of my recent jobs had me working 100 hours per week for $130k (base salary). Every job I've ever had expected overtime without extra pay. One job had me working through every holiday without bonus. I've had some shitty jobs, but it wasn't illegal for them to demand this out of me.
    - Terretta 4y ago
      For anyone working crazy hours and getting paid salary while having zero sense of control, it's worth checking if you're misclassified as exempt: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/exempt-and-a-non-exempt-employee-2061988 https://www.thebalancemoney.com/exempt-and-a-non-exempt-empl... If you work with computers, or are above 100k and any part of the job is executive, administrative, or professional, you're probably not, though.
      - w4ffl35 4y ago
        have looked into this for myself and i'm definitely exempt from being paid overtime. i now take these unreasonable demands as a sign that the employer wants me to quit.
  - chrisbaker98 4y ago
    My contract says that I'm expected to work Monday to Friday 9am to 6pm with a one hour lunch break (so 40 hours) but it also has some vague, ambiguous language about "occasionally" working "additional hours" as business demands it. So they can make me work 50-60 hours in one week and it wouldn't breach my contract.
fbdab103 4y ago
Are we suddenly counting people who show up and only give a partial effort? I am not sure you are prepared for how deep this rabbit hole goes.
Retric 4y ago
That assumes you are working 20 hours at each, plenty of people work 80+ hour weeks.

If you are charging two companies for 40 hours per week of work, while only working 20 hours per week for each of them, then that is fraud by any reasonable definition of the word.

ok_dad 4y ago

So I guess all those companies paying for 40 hours and getting 50 or 60 should be charged charged with fraud?

mytherin 4y ago
If your employer expects you to work 50 or 60 hours while only paying you for 40 hours then that is indeed also illegal.
- w4ffl35 4y ago
  I take it you've never had a salary pay job in America. One of my recent jobs had me working 100 hours per week for $130k (base salary). Every job I've ever had expected overtime without extra pay. One job had me working through every holiday without bonus. I've had some shitty jobs, but it wasn't illegal for them to demand this out of me.
  - Terretta 4y ago
    For anyone working crazy hours and getting paid salary while having zero sense of control, it's worth checking if you're misclassified as exempt: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/exempt-and-a-non-exempt-employee-2061988 https://www.thebalancemoney.com/exempt-and-a-non-exempt-empl... If you work with computers, or are above 100k and any part of the job is executive, administrative, or professional, you're probably not, though.
    - w4ffl35 4y ago
      have looked into this for myself and i'm definitely exempt from being paid overtime. i now take these unreasonable demands as a sign that the employer wants me to quit.
- chrisbaker98 4y ago
  My contract says that I'm expected to work Monday to Friday 9am to 6pm with a one hour lunch break (so 40 hours) but it also has some vague, ambiguous language about "occasionally" working "additional hours" as business demands it. So they can make me work 50-60 hours in one week and it wouldn't breach my contract.

fbdab103 4y ago

Are we suddenly counting people who show up and only give a partial effort? I am not sure you are prepared for how deep this rabbit hole goes.

Retric 4y ago

That assumes you are working 20 hours at each, plenty of people work 80+ hour weeks.