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Why not? They’re a danger to society otherwise.

standardUser 4y ago
If a person steals some makeup from a drug store, what danger do you face? What exactly is the danger you feel you are in?
- deleted 4y ago
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- balderdash 4y ago
  tell that to the people that work in theses stores and are being threatened and menaced
- yadaeno 4y ago
  The danger is sliding the Overton window so that society becomes accepting of theft, which makes life objectively worse for everyone including the thieves. Look at things like food deserts for an example of why allowing high theft is bad. Crime is so normal in these areas that its not even viable to bring in food in exchange for money.
  - standardUser 4y ago
    The Overton window is being shifted by an economy of poverty, not a marginal decrease in low-level prosecutions. FFS.
- LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
  You're laughably sheltered. The same person would set a baby afire to get drugs. By refusing to get them off the street at the first intervention you're setting some poor schmo up to take the fall, robbery, beating, or death. This isn't some poor single mom who can't afford an extra $20 a month to feed her baby, stealing formula. Watch the videos - crews of five to ten are walking into a store and looting it systematically - expensive cosmetics and other non-essentials - and beating anyone who interferes. Regardless of the violence it just gets called "shoplifting" in the news. You're minimizing organized crime that results in attempted murderer simply because the predicate crime sounds small.
- nxm 4y ago
  - wffurr 4y ago
    Wow, barbaric. In fact, that's truly awful. I wish it surprised me that human beings could think or say such things.
    - _-david-_ 4y ago
      Letting people engaging in violent antisocial behavior is barbaric. I wish it surprised me that human beings could think or say such things.
      - zuminator 4y ago
        Shoplifting is not violent behavior.
        _-david-_ 4y ago
        Why don't you think shoplifting is violence? Because you don't believe people have a right to property or because it is theft from a company?
        LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
        Because the news doesn't report the truth. You have to watch youtube videos of the thefts to see the violence. Even then, the most egregious videos seem to be vanishing as if they're being reported. Most of these people have no idea because the news tells them it's a made-up MAGA issue or something. And the violence is never punishable if you're a "victim". A guard who trips a thief will be charged, no question, but a thief who beats that guard on camera isn't even going to be investigated. No budget for "shoplifting" after all. It's not like someone is stealing food. These thugs are systematically ripping off just less than $1000 of expensive cosmetics, medicine, etc, that they can sell. Some of the videos show the thieves with calculators, tabulating their take and leaving just before they cross the line. This comes out of the pockets of the honest customers, if they weren't beaten in the robbery itself. The cost of these robberies is society itself.

If a person steals some makeup from a drug store, what danger do you face? What exactly is the danger you feel you are in?

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balderdash 4y ago
tell that to the people that work in theses stores and are being threatened and menaced
yadaeno 4y ago
The danger is sliding the Overton window so that society becomes accepting of theft, which makes life objectively worse for everyone including the thieves. Look at things like food deserts for an example of why allowing high theft is bad. Crime is so normal in these areas that its not even viable to bring in food in exchange for money.
- standardUser 4y ago
  The Overton window is being shifted by an economy of poverty, not a marginal decrease in low-level prosecutions. FFS.
LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
You're laughably sheltered. The same person would set a baby afire to get drugs. By refusing to get them off the street at the first intervention you're setting some poor schmo up to take the fall, robbery, beating, or death. This isn't some poor single mom who can't afford an extra $20 a month to feed her baby, stealing formula. Watch the videos - crews of five to ten are walking into a store and looting it systematically - expensive cosmetics and other non-essentials - and beating anyone who interferes. Regardless of the violence it just gets called "shoplifting" in the news. You're minimizing organized crime that results in attempted murderer simply because the predicate crime sounds small.
nxm 4y ago
- wffurr 4y ago
  Wow, barbaric. In fact, that's truly awful. I wish it surprised me that human beings could think or say such things.
  - _-david-_ 4y ago
    Letting people engaging in violent antisocial behavior is barbaric. I wish it surprised me that human beings could think or say such things.
    - zuminator 4y ago
      Shoplifting is not violent behavior.
      - _-david-_ 4y ago
        Why don't you think shoplifting is violence? Because you don't believe people have a right to property or because it is theft from a company?
        LawTalkingGuy 4y ago
        Because the news doesn't report the truth. You have to watch youtube videos of the thefts to see the violence. Even then, the most egregious videos seem to be vanishing as if they're being reported. Most of these people have no idea because the news tells them it's a made-up MAGA issue or something. And the violence is never punishable if you're a "victim". A guard who trips a thief will be charged, no question, but a thief who beats that guard on camera isn't even going to be investigated. No budget for "shoplifting" after all. It's not like someone is stealing food. These thugs are systematically ripping off just less than $1000 of expensive cosmetics, medicine, etc, that they can sell. Some of the videos show the thieves with calculators, tabulating their take and leaving just before they cross the line. This comes out of the pockets of the honest customers, if they weren't beaten in the robbery itself. The cost of these robberies is society itself.