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Cancer vaccines would be given to someone with cancer. These vaccines would not be preventative

bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
That there is confusion just emphasizes that the term therapeutic vaccine needs more education around it. When I think of vaccines, I think of something that’s preventative - regardless of the mechanism. Even the coming “Lyme Disease” vaccine is still preventative though it’s more of a tick bite vaccine. Someone please school me. Why is it a therapeutic vaccine - what’s wrong with calling it a treatment?
- svara 4y ago
  It's a vaccine because it doesn't work on the cancer directly but rather teaches your immune system to attack the cancer.
  - bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
    Thanks. That clears that hang up up.
mig39 4y ago
Giving HPV vaccines to teens (including boys) seems to be preventative.
- bawolff 4y ago
  Which is not the type of vaccine the article is about.
Izkata 4y ago
Then these shouldn't be called vaccines.
- thallium205 4y ago
  - bawolff 4y ago
    This seems straight up false.
  - refurb 4y ago
    That's not true. They are therapeutics are reviewed the same as drugs. The FDA's vaccine division does not review these therapies.
- lkrubner 4y ago
  These are vaccines. They train the immune system to respond a particular way to particular proteins: that is a vaccine, full stop.
- NegativeLatency 4y ago
  What basis is there for saying that? There are many vaccines that can be given after exposure, for example the rabies vaccine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine
  - Izkata 4y ago
    Vaccines are for preventing the disease. Even for rabies, if you get it after the symptoms begin, it's too late.
    - nvrspyx 4y ago
      > A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease. While most are prophylactic, it's not a requirement to be considered a vaccine. Vaccines are not "meant to prevent a disease". They're meant to provide immunity to the disease, whether that be before (prophylactic/prevention) or during (therapeutic/treatment).

That there is confusion just emphasizes that the term therapeutic vaccine needs more education around it. When I think of vaccines, I think of something that’s preventative - regardless of the mechanism. Even the coming “Lyme Disease” vaccine is still preventative though it’s more of a tick bite vaccine. Someone please school me. Why is it a therapeutic vaccine - what’s wrong with calling it a treatment?

svara 4y ago
It's a vaccine because it doesn't work on the cancer directly but rather teaches your immune system to attack the cancer.
- bitxbitxbitcoin 4y ago
  Thanks. That clears that hang up up.

mig39 4y ago

Giving HPV vaccines to teens (including boys) seems to be preventative.

bawolff 4y ago
Which is not the type of vaccine the article is about.

Izkata 4y ago

Then these shouldn't be called vaccines.

thallium205 4y ago
- bawolff 4y ago
  This seems straight up false.
- refurb 4y ago
  That's not true. They are therapeutics are reviewed the same as drugs. The FDA's vaccine division does not review these therapies.
lkrubner 4y ago
These are vaccines. They train the immune system to respond a particular way to particular proteins: that is a vaccine, full stop.
NegativeLatency 4y ago
What basis is there for saying that? There are many vaccines that can be given after exposure, for example the rabies vaccine: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine
- Izkata 4y ago
  Vaccines are for preventing the disease. Even for rabies, if you get it after the symptoms begin, it's too late.
  - nvrspyx 4y ago
    > A vaccine is a biological preparation that provides active acquired immunity to a particular infectious or malignant disease. While most are prophylactic, it's not a requirement to be considered a vaccine. Vaccines are not "meant to prevent a disease". They're meant to provide immunity to the disease, whether that be before (prophylactic/prevention) or during (therapeutic/treatment).