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Unless people close to him is willing to talk openly about it, I guess we'll never know. He has to be good at something, maybe at taking bets and convincing pe

Unless people close to him is willing to talk openly about it, I guess we'll never know. He has to be good at something, maybe at taking bets and convincing people to give him money, like other HNr suggests. Who knows.

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago
> maybe at taking bets and convincing people to give him money, like other HNr suggests. This line of thought always comes across as "ego defending rationalization" to me. That is, we don't like to believe that someone who is such an ass clown can be so successful, so we just chalk it up to his family's wealth or luck or something. But it's clear to me from Musk's communications that: 1. He is extremely intelligent, at least in his ability to understand topics across a wide range of areas (business, technical, finance). 2. He is extremely driven. He could have easily put his feet up after PayPal but he chose to get involved in immensely difficult, grand projects. 3. He works extremely hard (at least when he isn't tweet trolling). I don't think anyone questions his long work hours and sleeping at the office during the Model 3 production ramp up. 4. At least until recently, he was able to get other extremely smart and driven people to follow his lead. I guess it's really number 4 that seems like the biggest change in the past couple years in my opinion. I mean, I've got to believe a lot of smart people at Tesla and SpaceX are looking on thinking "WTF is Musk on??"
- guax 4y ago
  I'll give you 1* and 2. I have serious doubts about 3 (recently) considering he's the CEO of many companies, is constantly flying to non work related locations and tweet all the fucking time. Even if he is working extremely hard the output for any of the companies must be small, which given his track record on twitter might be the biggest benefit to his CEO career of all times. The key is #4, I think he managed to have incredible challenges at his other companies that brought it people who knows not only how to perform the job very well but to manage him very well. *I still have doubts about how much of his smarts is being smart or just sounding smart, he is certainly not dumb by any stretch.
- helsontaveras18 4y ago
  It’s all fun and games until a US Federal judge forces you to buy Twitter
  - lotsofpulp 4y ago
    Not a US federal judge, it was a Delaware state judge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathaleen_McCormick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathaleen_McCormick
- djur 4y ago
  In my experience, very intelligent people can fall into a trap where they're so used to being able to solve problems based on their initial assessment that their ability to actually dig in and solve more difficult problems analytically suffers. The classic example of this is the smart kid who breezes through school and then smacks into a wall when the curriculum gets difficult enough to actually require them to study and work hard. Combine this with a lot of money and you end up with someone with both the inclination and ability to take risky major actions quickly, as well as the resources necessary to walk away from bad bets intact. Over time I think this would reward and encourage the growth of impulsive tendencies in a person. But what happens if that person takes a wild swing that fails in a way they can't get away from or buy their way out of? (Not to mention the compounding effect of any drugs they might be on.)
  - jffhn 4y ago
    >The classic example There is also the Nobel disease.

hn_throwaway_99 4y ago

> maybe at taking bets and convincing people to give him money, like other HNr suggests. This line of thought always comes across as "ego defending rationalization" to me. That is, we don't like to believe that someone who is such an ass clown can be so successful, so we just chalk it up to his family's wealth or luck or something. But it's clear to me from Musk's communications that: 1. He is extremely intelligent, at least in his ability to understand topics across a wide range of areas (business, technical, finance). 2. He is extremely driven. He could have easily put his feet up after PayPal but he chose to get involved in immensely difficult, grand projects. 3. He works extremely hard (at least when he isn't tweet trolling). I don't think anyone questions his long work hours and sleeping at the office during the Model 3 production ramp up. 4. At least until recently, he was able to get other extremely smart and driven people to follow his lead. I guess it's really number 4 that seems like the biggest change in the past couple years in my opinion. I mean, I've got to believe a lot of smart people at Tesla and SpaceX are looking on thinking "WTF is Musk on??"

guax 4y ago
I'll give you 1* and 2. I have serious doubts about 3 (recently) considering he's the CEO of many companies, is constantly flying to non work related locations and tweet all the fucking time. Even if he is working extremely hard the output for any of the companies must be small, which given his track record on twitter might be the biggest benefit to his CEO career of all times. The key is #4, I think he managed to have incredible challenges at his other companies that brought it people who knows not only how to perform the job very well but to manage him very well. *I still have doubts about how much of his smarts is being smart or just sounding smart, he is certainly not dumb by any stretch.
helsontaveras18 4y ago
It’s all fun and games until a US Federal judge forces you to buy Twitter
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Not a US federal judge, it was a Delaware state judge. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathaleen_McCormick https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathaleen_McCormick
djur 4y ago
In my experience, very intelligent people can fall into a trap where they're so used to being able to solve problems based on their initial assessment that their ability to actually dig in and solve more difficult problems analytically suffers. The classic example of this is the smart kid who breezes through school and then smacks into a wall when the curriculum gets difficult enough to actually require them to study and work hard. Combine this with a lot of money and you end up with someone with both the inclination and ability to take risky major actions quickly, as well as the resources necessary to walk away from bad bets intact. Over time I think this would reward and encourage the growth of impulsive tendencies in a person. But what happens if that person takes a wild swing that fails in a way they can't get away from or buy their way out of? (Not to mention the compounding effect of any drugs they might be on.)
- jffhn 4y ago
  >The classic example There is also the Nobel disease.