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Gergely Orosz has been engagement farming this ongoing saga for weeks now (I had to mute him on Twitter). Kind of makes him a bit hypocritical when taking advan

by dvt 4y ago

Gergely Orosz has been engagement farming this ongoing saga for weeks now (I had to mute him on Twitter). Kind of makes him a bit hypocritical when taking advantage of this situation for his own enrichment, no? I wonder how many books he's sold in the meantime. Also, acting like engineers that have been making six-figures for years now are some kind of underclass is a bit ridiculous, but that's neither here nor there.

roflyear 4y ago
Anyone can be mistreated
hnal943 4y ago
100% agree. He's hysterical. It has changed my opinion of him.
thenerdhead 4y ago
That's the word I was trying to find: "engagement farming". While I respect his hustle, majority of his content is exactly that. Find the outrage in the world, wrap it up in a box, and include some of your products to alleviate the pain(i.e. layoffs -> job postings). This is a pretty well known pattern to grow on social media though. Find the major division, double down on one side, and repeat your position. It's smart, but feels wrong to me. Needless to say, our attention talking about this is just making him more money, so I respect him to be in that position.
ssnistfajen 4y ago
Rapid mass layoffs based on completely arbitrary grounds and sudden drastic changes in work expectations are abusive practices regardless of the level of compensation.
hw 4y ago
This. Tech workers have been pampered for a decade, up to the point where people feel entitled to their job. From high six figure salaries to all the perks that tech cos give out without necessarily requiring a 4 year cs degree, life is pretty good, compared to others in the medical field, education, finance etc. Employment is never certain. Companies grow, pivot, shutdown, cut costs. The last 10+ years were the golden years for tech, but times are changing. Fat needs to be trimmed. Sometimes it hits even the good ones. The business doesnt owe its employees anything other than compensation for services. I empathize with the visa holders stuck in jobs or lost theirs and now have to scramble to look for a new job and sponsor. I was a H1B myself, and I was always aware of the risks and being at the mercy of my employer, but that is the risk I was willing to take for a job I liked that paid a lot more. I see a lot of anger towards companies aggressively hiring at fault, but if they didn't, a lot more people would not have had their cush jobs for however long it lasted.
ergocoder 4y ago
This guy hustles so much that he has no integrity left. One saga I remember is the plaid-stripe scandal where Plaid founder accused Jay of stealing ideas (e.g. interviewed at plaid, having meetings) This Orosz guy piled on with an anecdote and stated that this was normal for PM in fintech, especially at Stripe. Then, Jay responded that: - the job interview was before Jay joined Stripe and 3 years before Jay built this product at Stripe - All the meetings they had were initiated by Plaid. Jay even mentioned he was repeatedly asked for a meeting by Plaid. Plaid founder never responded to this. This Orosz guy kinda moved on and never apologized for piling on with an unrelated story.

by dvt 4y ago

roflyear 4y ago

Anyone can be mistreated

hnal943 4y ago

100% agree. He's hysterical. It has changed my opinion of him.

thenerdhead 4y ago

That's the word I was trying to find: "engagement farming". While I respect his hustle, majority of his content is exactly that. Find the outrage in the world, wrap it up in a box, and include some of your products to alleviate the pain(i.e. layoffs -> job postings). This is a pretty well known pattern to grow on social media though. Find the major division, double down on one side, and repeat your position. It's smart, but feels wrong to me. Needless to say, our attention talking about this is just making him more money, so I respect him to be in that position.

ssnistfajen 4y ago

Rapid mass layoffs based on completely arbitrary grounds and sudden drastic changes in work expectations are abusive practices regardless of the level of compensation.

hw 4y ago

This. Tech workers have been pampered for a decade, up to the point where people feel entitled to their job. From high six figure salaries to all the perks that tech cos give out without necessarily requiring a 4 year cs degree, life is pretty good, compared to others in the medical field, education, finance etc. Employment is never certain. Companies grow, pivot, shutdown, cut costs. The last 10+ years were the golden years for tech, but times are changing. Fat needs to be trimmed. Sometimes it hits even the good ones. The business doesnt owe its employees anything other than compensation for services. I empathize with the visa holders stuck in jobs or lost theirs and now have to scramble to look for a new job and sponsor. I was a H1B myself, and I was always aware of the risks and being at the mercy of my employer, but that is the risk I was willing to take for a job I liked that paid a lot more. I see a lot of anger towards companies aggressively hiring at fault, but if they didn't, a lot more people would not have had their cush jobs for however long it lasted.

ergocoder 4y ago

This guy hustles so much that he has no integrity left. One saga I remember is the plaid-stripe scandal where Plaid founder accused Jay of stealing ideas (e.g. interviewed at plaid, having meetings) This Orosz guy piled on with an anecdote and stated that this was normal for PM in fintech, especially at Stripe. Then, Jay responded that: - the job interview was before Jay joined Stripe and 3 years before Jay built this product at Stripe - All the meetings they had were initiated by Plaid. Jay even mentioned he was repeatedly asked for a meeting by Plaid. Plaid founder never responded to this. This Orosz guy kinda moved on and never apologized for piling on with an unrelated story.