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While I have little confidence in the average NYT reader I think people need to be able to make up their own minds, and Sam has an important and relevant perspe

While I have little confidence in the average NYT reader I think people need to be able to make up their own minds, and Sam has an important and relevant perspective which we should be able to take into account, even if he might frame it in a way that makes him look good

dontknowwhyihn 4y ago
He’s a criminal fraudster.
largepeepee 4y ago
It's not like he hasn't been talking or typing. His lawyers probably reckoned he was talking way too much, was too much of a liability and dropped him immediately. The real question is he keeps receiving positive media coverage? They keep trying to frame him as, just a "dumb kid and his friends" that "accidentally misplaced billions" - when in fact, it is pretty obvious he planned most of it, by how his complex corporate structure was and the constant deleting of evidence every step of the way. Not to mention how he gave himself over a billion of personal loans and spending millions on bribes towards the end for hopes of political protection when he knew he was running out of rope to hide his scam.
- brookst 4y ago
  Not sure where you’re seeing this coordinated effort to frame him positively. Im sure there are some takes like that, but there is also: https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-sit-in-the-crosshairs-of-u-s-prosecutors-11668398012 https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-sit-in-th... https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-incompetence-legal-strategy https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-incom... I’m seeing plenty of critical coverage. Are you really not seeing that?
  - cstejerean 4y ago
    Headlines like "Sam Bankman-Fried’s Plans to Save the World Went Down in Flames" paint him in a more positive light than he deserves IMO. There were no plans to save the world.
raegis 4y ago
Can you point to any one thing he said which no one else has said before? Maybe an insightful comment to help understand his "relevant perspective"? He got a degree from MIT, did a year at Jane Street, but is unable to keep basic financial records??? This doesn't make sense to me, and seems like obvious fraud.
- actionablefiber 4y ago
  I don't think he has any special wisdom to impart, but I really like the potential payoff opportunity. Something really funny could happen! Like a pie in his face or a profoundly self-unaware quip that sends the crowd into half shrieking laughter and half boos.

dontknowwhyihn 4y ago

He’s a criminal fraudster.

largepeepee 4y ago

It's not like he hasn't been talking or typing. His lawyers probably reckoned he was talking way too much, was too much of a liability and dropped him immediately. The real question is he keeps receiving positive media coverage? They keep trying to frame him as, just a "dumb kid and his friends" that "accidentally misplaced billions" - when in fact, it is pretty obvious he planned most of it, by how his complex corporate structure was and the constant deleting of evidence every step of the way. Not to mention how he gave himself over a billion of personal loans and spending millions on bribes towards the end for hopes of political protection when he knew he was running out of rope to hide his scam.

brookst 4y ago
Not sure where you’re seeing this coordinated effort to frame him positively. Im sure there are some takes like that, but there is also: https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-sit-in-the-crosshairs-of-u-s-prosecutors-11668398012 https://www.wsj.com/articles/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-sit-in-th... https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-incompetence-legal-strategy https://www.axios.com/2022/11/16/ftx-sam-bankman-fried-incom... I’m seeing plenty of critical coverage. Are you really not seeing that?
- cstejerean 4y ago
  Headlines like "Sam Bankman-Fried’s Plans to Save the World Went Down in Flames" paint him in a more positive light than he deserves IMO. There were no plans to save the world.

raegis 4y ago

Can you point to any one thing he said which no one else has said before? Maybe an insightful comment to help understand his "relevant perspective"? He got a degree from MIT, did a year at Jane Street, but is unable to keep basic financial records??? This doesn't make sense to me, and seems like obvious fraud.

actionablefiber 4y ago
I don't think he has any special wisdom to impart, but I really like the potential payoff opportunity. Something really funny could happen! Like a pie in his face or a profoundly self-unaware quip that sends the crowd into half shrieking laughter and half boos.